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Tuesday, February 16, 2021

Questions Feb 18

 LH

  • Do you prefer Descartes's form of skepticism to Pyrrho's? 64
  • Is it objectionable, as C.S. Peirce said (noted in How the World Thinks), to doubt in philosophy what we do not doubt in real life?
  • Do you think you know that you're not dreaming right now? Are there ever times when you don't think you know that?
  • Do you think Gilbert Ryle's "ghost in the machine" description of mind-body dualism is fair? 67
  • What do you think of Pascal's statement that the immensity of the night sky is frightening? Do you think it was fear that motivated his approach to religion? 
  • Is Pascal's Wager a rational and sensible approach to religious belief? 71
  • Do you agree with Pascal that if you gamble on God and lose, "you lose nothing"? 72
  • By limiting his "wager" to a choice between either Christian theism or atheism, does Pascal excludes too many other possible "bets"? 74
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  • Do you think Christian religiosity is "the grandest and greatest conspiracy of all? (FL 89)
  • Is Andersen right, did Enlightenment skepticism receive a religious make-over in America and become conspiracy-mindedness? 89
  • Was Franklin right about the Masons? 90 
  • Would the Civil War have been less bloody, or less likely even, if neither Union nor Confederacy had thought God was on their side? 95
  • What do you think of Swallow Barn? 96
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  • What does "perfect divine transcendental unity" mean to you, in practical terms? 147
  • Do you think of your ordinary experience, day to day, as "nothing more than a powerful illusion"? 149 Does anyone ever really act as if they believed that? Is it possible to function effectively and happily with such an attitude?
  • Do you believe in predestination and your "recorded destiny"? 154
  • Do you believe natural disasters that kill innocent people are "God's will" AND that people are nonetheless "culpable"? 155
  • What do you think of Harry Frankfiurt's "bullshit"? 162
  • What do you think of Bentham's "felicific calculus"? 
  • Do you think physics "fixes the facts" even if we can't reduce everything to it (because for instance there are no car batteries in fundamental physics)? 165
  • Was Stephen Hawking wrong about philosophy? 167











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It’s the birthday (Feb. 28) of essayist Michel de Montaigne (books by this author), born in Périgord, in Bordeaux, France (1533). He is considered by many to be the creator of the personal essay, in which he used self-portrayal as a mirror of humanity in general. Writers up to the present time have imitated his informal, conversational style. He said, “The highest of wisdom is continual cheerfulness: such a state, like the region above the moon, is always clear and serene.” WA
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Montaigne in The Stone...
  1. The Essayification of Everything

    “How to Live,” Sarah Bakewell’s elegant portrait of Montaigne, the 16th-century patriarch of the genre, and an edited volume by Carl H. Klaus and Ned Stuckey-French called “Essayists on the Essay: Montaigne...
  2. Of Cannibals, Kings and Culture: The Problem of Ethnocentricity

    In August of 1563, Michel de Montaigne, the famous French essayist, was introduced to three Brazilian cannibals who were visiting Rouen, France, at the invitation of King Charles the Ninth. The three men had never before left...
  3. What's Wrong With Philosophy?

    getting on board a student’s own agenda. Sometimes understanding is best reached when we expend our skeptical faculties, as Montaigne did, on our own beliefs, our own opinions. If debate is meant to be a means to truth — an idea...
  4. Learning How to Die in the Anthropocene

    questions have no logical or empirical answers. They are philosophical problems par excellence. Many thinkers, including Cicero, Montaigne, Karl Jaspers, and The Stone’s own Simon Critchley, have argued that studying philosophy is...
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Tuesday, March 17, 2015

Montaigne

Montaigne was originally scheduled for just before our Spring Break, but it got a jump-start week before last. Looked like a snow-globe out there for awhile. Now, it's practically Spring!

Older Daughter and I went and did what we'd been talking about doing for years, now that her Break and mine finally coincided: went to Florida's Grapefruit League Spring Training! Day after day of waking to 72 degrees, on the way to high 80s. Baseball and bliss.

But that was then. Now, Montaigne (& Bakewell on How to Live acc'ing to M)...

One good way to live, he thought, was by writing and reflecting on our many uncertainties. Embracing and celebrating them, in fact. That makes him an anti-Descartes, a happy and humane modern skeptic.

One thing we know for sure is the historical timelineMontaigne comes first, but since I always introduce him as the anti-Descartes he rarely gets top billing. The late Robert Solomon did the same thing. Not fair, for a guy who gave us the essay and (as Sarah Bakewell says) is so much "fun" to read. Unlike Descartes he was a true skeptic (again though, not so far over the cliff as Pyrrho) and "quite happy to live with that." His slogan was Que sçais-je?

Montaigne retired in his mid-30s to think and write, and ponder what must have felt to him (ever since his unplanned equine-dismounting event) like ever-looming mortality. He inscribed the beams of his study with many of his favorite quotes, including "nothing human is foreign to me" and "the only certainty is that nothing is certain."

Some of Montaigne's life-lessons and rules for how to live, as decoded by Sarah Bakewell: Don't worry about death; Pay attention; Question everything; Be convivial; Reflect on everything, regret nothing; Give up control; Be ordinary and imperfect; Let life be its own answer.

Montaigne leaps from the page as mindful, both ruminative and constantly attentive to the present moment. He has good advice for the walker. "When I walk alone in the beautiful orchard, if my thoughts have been dwelling on extraneous incidents for some part of the time, for some other part I bring them back to the walk, to the orchard, to the sweetness of this solitude, and to me."

Sarah Bakewell quotes Montaigne, disabusing us of the false image of him "brooding" in his tower. He was a peripatetic, too: "My thoughts fall asleep if I make them sit down. My mind will not budge unless my legs move it." So, like Emerson he might have said "my books are in my library but my study is outdoors."






There's just something irresistibly alluring about the candid and disarming familiarity of his tone, that's drawn readers to this original essayist for four and a half centuries and obliterates the long interval between him and us. He makes uncertainty fun.

"The highest of wisdom is continual cheerfulness"...

[Montaigne @dawn... M on Self-esteem (deB)... M quotes... M's beam inscriptions... M "In Our Time" (BBC)...M's tower...M's Essays...]

Also today, we'll consider the philosophical status of science. Montaigne the fallible skeptic actually had a better handle on it than Descartes, the self-appointed defender of scientific certainty. That's because science is a trial-and-error affair, making "essays" or attempts at evidence/-based understanding through observation, prediction, and test, but always retreating happily to the drawing board when conjectures meet refutation.

To answer some of my own DQs today:

Q: Are there any "authorities" (personal, textual, political, religious, institutional, traditional...) to whom you always and automatically defer? Can you justify this, intellectually or ethically? A: I don't think so. Whenever I feel a deferential impulse coming on I remind myself of the Emerson line about young men in libraries...

Q: Can you give an example of something you believe on the basis of probability, something else you believe because it has to be true (= follows necessarily from other premises you accept as true), and something you believe because you think it's the "best explanation")? Do you think most of your beliefs conform to one or another of these kinds of explanation? A: Hmmm... The sun will probably rise within the hour. I'm mortal. Life evolves. Yes.

Q: Do you think science makes genuine progress? Does it gradually give us a better, richer account of the natural world and our place in it? Is there a definite correlation between technology and scientific understanding? Do you think there is anything that cannot or should not be studied scientifically? Why? A: Yes, yes, yes, no. Science is a flawed instrument, because the humans who practice it are finite and fallible; but we have nothing to take its place. We shouldn't be scientistic, to the neglect of all the other tools in our kit (including poetry, literature, history, humor), but we definitely should be as scientific as we can.
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Wednesday, March 18, 2015

Descartes

Rene Descartes, not at all (Pythons notwithstanding) a "drunken fart," simply wanted to know what he could know for certain. He asked his version of the Howard Baker question. (The majority of students in my Tennessee classrooms could not identify the statesman-Senator when asked, the other day. Sigh.)

His skepticism was methodological, his goal was indubitable certainty. This, he thought, would serve the new science well. He misunderstood the self-correcting, probabilistic, fallibilistic nature of empirical reasoning. But most philosophers still think it’s worth wondering: how do you know you’re not dreaming, not being deceived by a demon or by your senses, not mistaking your own essential nature?

Still, cogito ergo sum overrates intellect. You don’t have to think, to demonstrate your existence. You just have to do something… even, as an old grad school pal used to say, if it’s wrong. (NOTE TO CLASS: I flip-flopped Descartes and his predecessor Montaigne, the anti-Descartes, on our syllabus: Descartes before the horse M. fell off of.)

Descartes' different aspects - mathematician, scientist, Catholic etc. - might suggest his split allegiance between Teams Aristotle and Plato. Both would probably like to claim him. I think he belongs with the armchair Platonists.
Reducing the operations of the universe to a series of lines,circles, numbers, and equations suited his reclusive personality. His most famous saying, “I think, therefore Iam” (cogito, ergo sum), could be stated less succinctly but more accurately as 'Because we are the only beings who do math, we rule.'
For Descartes, the essence of mind is to think, and the essence of matter is to exist-and the two never meet... we are the ghosts in the machine: souls in a world machine that operates inexorably and impersonally according to the laws of geometry and mechanics, while we operate the levers and spin the dials." The Cave and the Light

I usually think of Charles Sanders Peirce as Descartes’ most practical critic, and I agree with him that a contrived and methodological doubt is not the best starting place in philosophy.

But it occurs to me that an even more practical alternative to what I consider the misguided Cartesian quest for certainty is old Ben Franklin’s Poore Richard. His is not armchair wisdom, it comes straight from the accumulated experience of the folk. Some of that “common sense” is too common, but plenty is dead-on. “Early to bed, early to rise…” has definitely worked for me.

Still, says A.C. Grayling, "we may disagree with Descartes that the right place to start is with the private data of consciousness" rather than the shared world of language and common experience; but even if he was wrong he was "powerfully, interestingly, and importantly wrong." Russell concurs.

The thing is, the quest for certainty in philosophy tends to go hand-in-glove with the assertion of rational necessity. That, in turn, courts determinism and fatalism. Do we really want to rubber-stamp everything that happens as fated, not free? Hobbes (the contractarian and the cat) did. Calvin learned not to.





Is there anything we know or believe that we could not possibly be mistaken about, or cannot reasonably doubt? Certainly not, speaking at least for myself. But I'm next to certain that I'm more-or-less awake, at this hour, as the coffee drains.



I'm also pretty darn sure that I am (and do not "have") a body/brain. When I think of who, what, and where I am, though, the answer is interestingly complicated by all my relations (I don't just mean my familial relations): I am inclusive of a past and a future (though it keeps shrinking), and of wherever my influence (for better or worse) manages to stretch. I am vitally related by experience (actual, virtual, vicarious, possible, personal, interpersonal) to points far and wide. And, to actual physical objects in the extended world - not merely to possibilities of familiar object-like patterns of perception, as the phenomenalist has it. I'm not trapped in my skin, and we are definitely not alone in a solipsistic universe. Like Dr. Johnson, contra Berkeley, I find the pain in my toes (or hips) decidedly more substantial than an immaterial idea.

Or ghost.




I don't believe in ghosts, except metaphorically. (I am haunted by opportunities missed, possibilities unnnoticed, diems uncarped.) But most of my metaphorical spooks are Casperishly friendly (albeit incoherent, dualistically speaking). This is true of most people who read and think a lot, isn't it? We're in constant, happy communion with the dead, the remote, and the prospective members of our continuous human community. Books transport us to their realms, and to the great undiscovered country of our future.

Thursday, March 19, 2015
Pascal & the mind

Somewhere in Walden Thoreau says something about needing a little water in his world, to provide a reflective glimpse of eternity. He also has things to say to today's headliner Pascal, about not being cowed by the scale of the cosmos. Pascal famously confessed: "the eternal silence of these infinite spaces frightens me." (No wonder he was frightened, say J & M.) Henry said, in reply to neighbors who wondered if he wasn't lonely out there by the lake in the woods:"Why should I feel lonely? is not our planet in the Milky Way?" Unlike his French predecessor, our transcendentalist was at home in the universe. He was less so, sadly, in the society of his peers.

Trivial pop-culture factoid: last night on "Madam Secretary," the husband (a teacher)mentioned Pascal.

Less trivially, Voltaire (we'll soon see him skewering Leibniz) intervened in the Pascal-Montaigne conflict. He called Pascal a "sublime misanthropist" whose vision of humanity as imprisoned and terrorized by the immensity and uncertainty of the cosmos was "fanatic."

Bertrand Russell mostly felt sorry for him, approvingly citing Nietzsche's critique of Pascal's "self-contempt and self-immolation." He meant Pascal's intellectual suicide, driven by fear.

Fortunately there’s much more to Blaise Pascal than his famous Wager [SEP], which we've already encountered in CoPhi.

Besides his mathematics and "Pascaline," his proto-computer, there are all those thoughts ("Pensees"-you can listen for free, here) and there’s also his antipathy for his fellow philosophe Francais, Montaigne. I usually compare-&-contrast Montaigne and Descartes, so this makes for a nice new menage a trois. Blaise is hostile to both Rene and Michel but is a cautious gambler, finding Descartes’ God too antiseptic and too, well, philosophical. And he finds Montaigne a self-absorbed, trivia-mongering potty-mouth.

But Montaigne would not at all disagree that “the heart has its reasons which reason knows not.” And isn’t it funny to think of Descartes philosophizing in his hypothetical armchair, asking if his fire and his body (etc.) are real, pretending to speculate that all the world and its philosophical problems might be figments of his solipsistic or dreamy or demon-instigated imagination? And then funnier still to come across this quote from Pascal: “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” But look what happens when a philosopher sits quietly in a room alone: you get the Meditations!

Pascal also said
“Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established, that, unless we love the truth, we cannot know it.” And “It is man’s natural sickness to believe that he possesses the Truth.”
And
“There are two equally dangerous extremes: to exclude reason, to admit nothing but reason.”
And
“The nature of man is wholly natural, omne animal. There is nothing he may not make natural; there is nothing natural he may not lose.”*

And
“The weather and my mood have little connection. I have my foggy and my fine days within me…” [Or as Jimmy Buffett says, carry the weather with you.]

And all military veterans especially should appreciate this one:
“Can anything be stupider than that a man has the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of a river and his ruler has a quarrel with mine, though I have not quarrelled with him?”

And this will be an epigraph for my Philosophy Walks (or its sequel Philosophy Rides):
“Our nature lies in movement; complete calm is death.”
Reminds me of what Montaigne said about needing to kickstart his mind with his legs.

But Pascal does finally blow the big game of life, for betting too heavily on self-interest. He’s obsessed with “saving [his] own soul at all costs.” That’s a losing proposition.

[*That statement about us being "omne animal" sounded flattering, to me, being a philosophical naturalist and a friend to animals. But later epigraphs indicate Pascal's platonist perfectionism and his derogatory attitude towards humanity and its natural condition. Without God's grace, he writes, we are "like unto the brute beasts." He doesn't seem pleased about that, but I'm with Walt Whitman: "I think I could turn and live with animals, they're so placid and self contain'd... They do not sweat and whine about their condition... They do not make me sick discussing their duty to God..."]

Julia Sweeney, donning her no-god glasses, gets to the nub of what’s wrong with Pascal’s Wager:
So how can I come up against this biggest question, the ultimate question, “Do I really believe in a personal God,” and then turn away from the evidence? How can I believe, just because I want to? How will I have any respect for myself if I did that?

I thought of Pascal’s Wager. Pascal argued that it’s better to bet there is a God, because if you’re wrong there’s nothing to lose, but if there is, you win an eternity in heaven. But I can’t force myself to believe, just in case it turns out to be true. The God I’ve been praying to knows what I think, he doesn’t just make sure I show up for church. How could I possibly pretend to believe? I might convince other people, but surely not God.
And probably not Richard Rorty, for whom philosophy is not about nailing down the unequivocal Truth but rather continuing the never-concluding Conversation of humankind.

Rorty was the most controversial philosopher on the scene back when I began grad school, having just published his brilliantly and infuriatingly iconoclastic Philosophy and the Mirror of Nature.

Everybody had to have a view on it, and on his view that philosophy's long quest to represent "external reality" accurately was a waste of time we were free to give up. We could ditch our "comic" efforts "to guarantee this and clarify that."

Philosophers get attention only when they appear to be doing something sinister--corrupting the youth, undermining the foundations of civilization, sneering at all we hold dear. The rest of the time everybody assumes that they are hard at work somewhere down in the sub-basement, keeping those foundations in good repair. Nobody much cares what brand of intellectual duct tape is being used.My current position, after several oscillations, has settled at last into the earnest wish that more philosophers wrote as wittily and as well as he did. Almost none do. Did he get pragmatism and truth right? I guess that's what he'd call a duct tape question.

Rorty, with his metaphor of mind as (cloudy) mirror, is a good segue to the discussion of philosophy of mind, also on tap today.

Dualism gets us ghosts and spirits and other non-physical entities. Scary! But not for most students, I've found, so deeply have most of them drunk from the holy communion trough. It's not a question of evidence but of familiarity and fear, in many cases - fear of the alternative. A student expressed that just the other day, asking with incredulity and contempt how anyone could possibly ponder facing the end of mortal existence without an immortal safety net firmly in place (in mind).

Why do they think the evolution of mind so closely parallels that of the brain? They don't think about it, mostly.

Nor do most think much about the possibility of mind and body being on parallel but never-converging tracks, pre-arranged to keep a synchronous schedule and never throw up a discordant discrepant "occasion." And forget too about epiphenomenalism (which Sam Harris seems to be trying hard to revive).

If neuroscientists ever succeed in mapping the brain (TED) and modeling the causal neurological events correlated with thinking, will that solve the mystery of consciousness? [John Searle's view...] Is there a gap between the explanation and the experience of pain, pleasure, happiness, etc.? I say no and yes, respectively. But let's try and draw that map, it may take us to interesting places none of us have thought about.

35 comments:

  1. What do you think of Pascal's statement that the immensity of the night sky is frightening? Do you think it was fear that motivated his approach to religion? I think it is a appropriate statement as the night sky represents the unknown. Humans have always had a fear of not knowing about what is on the other side of something whether it be death or un chartered lands. the sheer amount of unchartered space the night sky represents is immensely terrifying. I think it was fear as I said before that the fear of the unknow motivates a lot of people to explore or believe in things they wouldn't necessarily do before. This fear also translated to the afterlife and with fear, it gave him something to believe in and instilled hope that there was something on the other side.

    Do you believe natural disasters that kill innocent people are "God's will" AND that people are nonetheless "culpable"?
    As a Christian I can say that many others tend to forget that while god is merciful, god is also vengeful. God sends down destruction on the earth for various reasons but at times those reasons are for being unfaithful to god. People often times treat the commandments as suggestions more than actual law and when this I happens, I believe god send his wraith down for violating these laws. No to say everyone who dies in these disasters are culpable is not something id agree with. Some follow the laws and adhere to gods will and in these cases are given early access to the kingdom of god. Death is a punishment for those who will not see the kingdom, while death for others is reward in receiving early access to the kingdom of god.

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    1. I am a Christian too, but I also question why would god end the life of people so early if they have not found the way to him yet. Why not give them more time? Why end the life he created and loved? I feel as though everything does happen for a reason though. Wether that is god's way or the people were just in the wrong place wrong time.

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    2. Matah Nan
      Section 4
      I think another reason we fear the night sky is also because of its vastness. We innately know what we can not affect the sky and that makes us feel miniscule. From there fear comes into play as it brings about the thought that nothing you do will matter and that causes us to question our purpose of being here and why do we put so much effort. At least that is for me.

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    3. Janai Blakemore
      Section 7
      I believe that in different religions and different parts of the world we all see death different. Some of us mourn the loss and some of us celebrate their life so it depends on the way that you look at it. For selfish reasons we have made death a bad thing because we would like to stay with our loved ones forever, but that it isn't possible. Death is a natural part of life and it's the only thing that we are promised in this world. So, I don't believe that the way that people die and when they die has anything to do with them being culpable but has everything to do with it just being our time to go. I think as humans we try to always find a reason for why innocent people die and its hard to associate something so bad with something good when really death is just the price you pay for living.

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    4. Death is very sad, especially the premature death of loved ones... but we should be glad to have had the opportunity to know and love them at all, to have shared some fraction of this mysterious life with them. That's a stoic attitude.

      As for Pascal's fright, I guess I just don't get it. From the earliest age I recall looking up at stars and being filled with wonder and curiosity and a feeling of the sublime. Fear of the unknown, just because it's unknown, seems such a retrograde, irrational, and superstitious state of mind.

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  2. Marim Sameer
    Section 7
    Discussion answer/ weekly essay
    Do you believe natural disasters that kill innocent people are "God's will" AND that people are nonetheless "culpable"?
    I believe that everything happens for a reason. I also believe that everyone has this time to die. I want to answer and say yes it God’s will to kill those innocent people because he does things for a reason. However, when I try to think of the reason, I just end up leaving the thought of why God would do such a thing to people he calls his children. My parents brought up a good point when I asked them this question. They said that although God is merciful and loves us all as his own, he also wants to teach people a lesson. God has given us plenty of time to choose the “right path”. When we go against his word and teachings God sees this as a reason to be punished. Even though I am Christian I still question this type of mentality. Maybe, those people did not reach the point in life where they believe in god. Maybe they grew up in a household that did not stress the idea of following God and his commandments. So, I still question why he would end their life so early.

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    1. Perhaps everything happens for a reason, but very clearly many things in our world happen for no apparent GOOD reason (from a human point of view).

      Hard to see what lesson one can learn from being dead and gone. Or is the lesson supposed to be for the benefit of the survivors? And what would that lesson be,that god is a fearsome and frequently-arbitrary force?

      Following commandments just because they've been commanded by an unquestioned (and feared) authority is pretty un-philosophical.

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  3. Section 4

    I honestly have no way of knowing if I am dreaming right now. I can assume I am not, but I can’t prove it. I have lucid dreams sometimes and have often lived through days assuming it was normal, but it was actually a dream. One recurring dream that deals with this topic is one I have the nights before very time sensitive events, like waking up early to go to work or setting pretty much any alarm. The dream is that I wake up and I check the time and find that I am already late! I then end up waking up abruptly in a rush to get ready, when in fact, I am nowhere near the time I need to wake up at.
    Honestly, I could be dreaming right now and make up this situation for myself and make up all of these friend characters. The only thing that makes me assume that this is real is why would I make everything so difficult sometimes? Why do I have people leave my life or be mean to me? Not every dream is good, so all the bad things that are happening can just be small nightmares sprinkled in this imaginary world.
    What if we are in something similar to the Matrix? I could wake up right now and reality as I would have known would have been fake the whole time. There is nothing I can do right now to prove it and there are truly endless possibilities to what is “real”.

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    1. My colleague Prof. Magada-Ward always used to show clips from The Matrix, to illustrate Descartes's idea that we might be dreaming. (Inception works for that too.) Maybe others dream much more lucidly and cinematically than I do, but waking life ordinarily just FEELS so much more "clear and distinct" (in Descartes's phrase) to me. So my default position is to assume I'm awake if it feels like I am. That's worked pretty well for me, these 64+ years.

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  4. Section 4,

    Do you think Christian religiosity is "the grandest and greatest conspiracy of all? it most certainly could be. I believe people join religious organizations for different reasons. One could join for peace of mind to the big question of, why are we here? Which I feel scares a lot of people. For those at the top of the religious organization such as your priests and preacher, I feel like since nothing of religion can be proven than what is preached is only believed and backed by faith. In a sense it is a conspiracy because it can not be proven. As far as Christian religion being the grandest of them all, all I can say is that there are roughly about 4,200 different religions and they can't all be right.









    Was Franklin right about the Masons?
    I would say yes. "Masonic lodges, which had started in England, were then more or less what they are now: adult fraternities, clubs where public-spirited men gathered to eat, drink, network, and perform goofy secret rituals". As a member of a fraternal organization this could not be more accurate.



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    1. I don't think Andersen meant that Christianity is a literal conspiracy, though if you've read Dostoevsky's "Grand Inquisitor" you might think otherwise.

      My late dad was a Mason. It was just a club for him, an excuse to get out of the house...like Rotary or Kiwanis or the school board or the sewer district.

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  5. Prophetess Turner, Section 4:

    Do you believe in predestination and your "recorded destiny"? 154

    Well, I do believe in God, so I guess that defaults my belief in predestination or at least the fact that God (in my opinion) knows my path before I do. However, I do not agree with what the extremists who are mentioned in this chapter believed in. While they preached that you can be destined for hell from the womb, I believe that God sets before us both death and life. So while they believe that theres only one path to choose, I think that we are always given two, so to speak. There is always the chance to choose between being responsible and not being responsible. I also think that there is always a chance at redemption. Any and everyone can fall victim to anything in life, but I do not think that knocks us out of the race or damns us to hell. I believe that there is always a chance to try again and change our fates.

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    1. But even if there are two paths (or more, more likely) before us, if god already knows which one we're going to take doesn't that land us back in the problem of denying the very free will that scenario calls us to exercise?

      Anyway, I agree that declaring newborn infants damned from birth (which was Calvin's view) is reprehensible.

      And I also believe in 2d chances.

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  6. Section 7.

    The night sky -- any by extension, space -- is vast. Comparable to looking out in the open ocean, it's the uncertainty that gets you. The uncertainty of how far it reaches and the uncertainty of what is hiding just outside your vision. Those two aspects are important and stand out the most. Personally, I'm not a destiny guy. I suppose if you think there is an all-knowing god and that he knows everything possible before it happens, that it can be seen as a "predestined existence" but I believe (again, personally) that the Christian god allows us to have free will. Is it an illusion of free will? Maybe, everything is possible, but I'm a free-willer guy myself. Also, when I die and if it turns out to be a gran hoax, then yep, it definitely is the grandest conspiracy of all.

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    1. Uncertainty does not bother me. Not knowing does motivate me to learn and explore.

      Free will as I understand it is not something that can be granted or conferred or gifted. We're free or we're not. If there's a power capable of blocking or denying it, then we've got strings attached (as in "who's pulling your strings") and we're not metaphysically free.

      "Everything is possible" -- ? We don't know that. But maybe you mean that everything is uncertain? Probably so.

      But what would it mean for everything to be a "gran hoax"?

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  7. Section 7

    LH
    1. Do you prefer Descartes's form of skepticism to Pyrrho's?
    - Yes. It is hard to believe nothing can be known for certain as Pyrrho had thought. Descartes “wanted to show that some beliefs are immune from even the strongest forms of skepticism” and I think this is a more realistic version of reality.

    2. Is it objectionable, as C.S. Peirce said (noted in How the World Thinks), to doubt in philosophy what we do not doubt in real life?
    - Yes, I think so.

    3. Do you think you know that you're not dreaming right now? Are there ever times when you don't think you know that?
    - I tend to experience this often, where I think I am awake and doing “x” activity just to hear my alarm go off. There is no way to know for sure that I am awake typing and posting my responses. However, if I hear my alarm in a couple minutes, I guess I’d be as wrong as I was the other times.

    4. Do you think Gilbert Ryle's "ghost in the machine" description of mind-body dualism is fair?
    - Yes, I do. I think the fact that I am religious already might be playing a role in why I do think it’s fair to say that the body and mind are separate from each other.

    5. Is Pascal's Wager a rational and sensible approach to religious belief?
    - I don’t know… I believe you cannot fully trust what your heart is saying, and that your heart is what leads you to God instead of your brain.

    6. Do you agree with Pascal that if you gamble on God and lose, "you lose nothing"?
    - I completely agree with Pascal that if you believe in God and it turns out not to be true, you haven’t lost anything then anyways.

    7. By limiting his "wager" to a choice between either Christian theism or atheism, does Pascal excludes too many other possible "bets"?
    - Yes. There is no way to know for certain “our” God, or the God out heart draws us to (as Pascal believed) is real. He easily other ideas/religions.


    FL
    1. Is Andersen right, did Enlightenment skepticism receive a religious make-over in America and become conspiracy-mindedness?
    - I think that Anderson is on to something and very well could be right about that! I had never thought about it like that before.

    HWT
    1. Do you believe in predestination and your "recorded destiny"?
    - No. I think that there might be a rough outline, but not specifically knowing my destiny.

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  8. section 4, Haley Flanagan
    Was Stephen Hawking wrong about philosophy? 167
    I think Stephen hawking was wrong about philosophy being dead because I think people are still questioning their existence and being philosophical. I do think that scientific thinking has been very popular due to need for development and discovery, but that doesn't mean philosophy is not practiced. If philosophy were dead then I wouldn't be taking this class. Even if philosophy were to "die" I don't think it would ever truly perish, because even the smallest questions we ask ourselves can be philosophical. I think it's in our nature to question our world, and so philosophy can never really die.

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  9. #7

    Do you think you know that you're not dreaming right now? Are there ever times when you don't think you know that?

    I do think that someone can tell the difference between their dreams and their reality. I cannot personally say that I have ever questioned a time of if I was dreaming or in real time.

    Do you agree with Pascal that if you gamble on God and lose, "you lose nothing"?

    I would agree with this statement. The reason I agree is even in the end if Heaven isn’t a thing or there is no afterlife religious belief gives guidance to people, and people base their lives on the ethics their religion is based around.

    Do you think Christian religiosity is "the grandest and greatest conspiracy of all?

    Yes. For people that work in the field of science religion is a big grey area because there is no concrete evidence that proves it is real, while other people put their faith into this belief and the only reason, they can believe in it is because others have said it is true.

    Would the Civil War have been less bloody, or less likely even, if neither Union nor Confederacy had thought God was on their side?

    No, I do not believe this to be a true statement because bottom line the civil war was about human rights in America and Christianity is a religious belief. I think that if people in America didn’t believe in Christianity at the time then they would’ve put their beliefs into something else. The rest of the world is not Christian, but countries have civil wars also, so I don’t think religious belief has anything to do with this certain occasion.

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  10. Section 8

    Do you agree with Pascal that if you gamble on God and lose, "you lose nothing?"

    I think it depends on how far you take your faith. If you only go to church on Sundays and try to stay as a good person but indulge yourself every now and again, then I'd say that's not a huge lose. However, if you were to take your belief to the max and live like a monk for your entire life then I'd say that is a huge lose as you've lost a lot of enjoyments in life (at least what I consider as enjoyments). Either way, it isn't a "lose nothing" as there is always a lost. At the same time, if you live your whole life with faith and when you finally die, there is no afterlife then it's not your problem anymore considering you're dead.

    Would the Civil War have been less bloody, or less likely even, if neither Union nor Confederacy had thought God was on their side?

    I do not think the disbelief of God being on your side would've caused the war to be less bloody and certainly not have prevented the war. The South was trying to maintain its old way of life, trying to maintain traditions. Naturally, people are going to fight back and fight back hard if you come attempt to stop their traditions.

    Do you believe in predestination and your "recorded destiny?"

    I'm not a believer in predestination. I don't like the idea of my entire life and my all my decisions really not being up to me. It seems cruel to me to believe that I am control of my life and how I live but then it turns out God was pulling the strings the whole time. I also dislike that with predestination, people are born just to be sent to Hell at the end with no way of retribution.

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  11. Keylee Crutcher Section 8

    Do you prefer Descartes's form of skepticism to Pyrrho's? 64

    Yes, because even if I agree with Pyrrho's ideology I don't agree with actually acting upon it like he did. Descartes's form at least won't get you killed.

    By limiting his "wager" to a choice between either Christian theism or atheism, does Pascal excludes too many other possible "bets"? 74

    I believe he does. There's so many other religions, and a lot have things other than heaven and hell. Some even have reincarnation, it's the same bet, worship the wrong way or to the wrong god and you'll be reincarnated into something that experiences nothing but pain. It's the same as hell in the aspect that n one wants to experience that. So should they devote themselves to the religion too? No, they could cross each other out or something. Personally, I would just rather live by my own moral code. If a certain religion turns out to exist and there is some type of deity, hopefully my own moral code fit their standards enough. I like that idea better than waisting my time praying or trying to be holy or change my thinking.

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  12. Aalayis Suggs, Section 8February 23, 2021 at 2:09 PM

    Answers for Feb. 16 & 18

    Was Hobbes right about what life outside society, in a "state of nature," would be like? 58 If you think so, does that justify an authoritarian police state?
    -I’m really not sure, but looking at other animal species, it doesn’t seem too horrible. It’s difficult and violent, but I don’t think it’s as bad as Hobbes makes it seem, and I don’t think it justifies an authoritarian police state. People need laws and for them to be enforced, but we don’t need that much governing.

    Does homeopathy fulfill the Hippocratic Oath? 76
    -I think it just depends on if it works or not. If a person is dying and tries a homeopathic remedy and it doesn’t work, they just wasted time while their disease got worse. But by that definition a lot of things go against the hippocratic oath. Treatments like shock therapy, lobotomies, and radiation therapy can do harm, but the intention is to help. I think the hippocratic oath should be to not intentionally cause harm, and then patients can choose their treatments on their own.

    "We should not cling to that which does not last." 132 But while we're here, shouldn't we cling to one another for mutual support?
    -Mutual support is great, but the word “cling” makes me think of neediness and desperation for it, which I don’t agree with, so I don’t think the issue is whether you cling or not; it’s why you cling, because you enjoy being and working with others or because you feel you need them.

    Is it objectionable, as C.S. Peirce said (noted in How the World Thinks), to doubt in philosophy what we do not doubt in real life?
    -I think he makes a good point. If you’re not doubting in real life, then doubting in philosophy is just kinda fake and useless, because you’re not actually changing your perspective or actions. However, if doubting in philosophy makes you doubt what you didn’t before (like playing devil’s advocate for fun and then realizing that the devil may be right), it could be useful.

    Would the Civil War have been less bloody, or less likely even, if neither Union nor Confederacy had thought God was on their side? 95
    -Maybe it would have been less bloody or less likely if they thought God wasn’t on their side, but if they thought there was no God, I think it would’ve been the same or worse. When I was reading about slavery and abolitionism in history last semester it seemed like most of the white people who wanted to end slavery were very christian and believed slavery was wrong from a religious perspective, so I think for some, believing in God and that he was on their side made them want less violence.

    Do you believe in predestination and your "recorded destiny"? 154
    -I don’t. It seems not fun at all. I don’t understand why some people who believe in recorded destiny give praise or rewards to those who do well. It’s less impressive if it seems planned. It also seems like less work and no personal responsibility.

    What do you think of Bentham's "felicific calculus"?
    -I think it could be useful to use the principles for making decisions in your life, but rating is really subjective, so I don’t think it could be used to evaluate others’ actions, because they see the intensity or certainty differently.

    Under the “Seeking Truth” header on the right side of the page it says:
    “Keep the company of those who seek the truth. Run from those who have found it.” Vaclav Havel
    -Isn’t the purpose of seeking to find something? You’re supposed to spend your whole life looking and never find it? What’s the use? Is there something inherently wrong with knowing the truth? Is the reason he thinks you should run that he believes they don’t actually know the truth? Does he believe no one can know?

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  13. Do you think you know that you're not dreaming right now? Are there ever times when you don't think you know that?

    This was an really interesting question when I read it because there were multiple times when I was younger, (and when imagination and making up stories was high), that I thought, what if the life that I'm experiencing right now is a dream? I would think the real me is in a deep deep sleep and what I was experiencing was all just a really detailed dream. Unfortunately, it is not all just a dream, because if it was, then if certain scenarios were to happen again, I would then know how to act. Sometimes when the existential thoughts come to me, then thoughts of is all of this a dream? come strong.

    Would the Civil War have been less bloody, or less likely even, if neither Union nor Confederacy had thought God was on their side?

    Honestly, I think the Civil War would have been the same whether or not they thought God was on their side. Tensions between the two sides were on different practices, and not religion, because both sides thought God was on their side. The war wanted to keep their way of living, and I think it would have been the same.

    Do you believe in predestination and your "recorded destiny"

    I think predestination goes along with Calvinism and not Christianity, because Christianity is the choice of where you spend eternity, but Calvinism seems to already assign people to Heaven and Hell. With that being said, I do not believe in predestination, as I am a Christian. With those beliefs, aforementioned, I believe that if I believe in Jesus and my sins are forgiven, then I will go to Heaven, that's my choice. Also the fact that predestination makes people believe they are part of the chosen ones by the way they behave sounds fake, then one cannot really know if one is genuinely a good and kind person, or if they are really a terrible person pretending to be "good".

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  14. Vernon Cooper section 7

    What does "perfect divine transcendental unity" mean to you, in practical terms? 147
    To me it simply means that I am in touch with something outside of my self, my higher self as some may refer to it. More relationships with my spirit or metaphysical understanding of the world. This topic can cover a vast area of though processes that stem from the belief of things outside of the physical. In short perfect divine transcendental unity means that I, my physical self, and the part of myself that would be considered metaphysical are in unity with one another.

    Do you think of your ordinary experience, day to day, as "nothing more than a powerful illusion"? 149 Does anyone ever really act as if they believed that? Is it possible to function effectively and happily with such an attitude?

    No. I believe that my day to day life is the creation of the legacy that I will leave on this planet when I am gone. Every day for me moves me closer to my goals I wish to accomplish. To me that is very real I do not agree that my life in the day to day journey can be portrayed as an illusion so to speak. Frankly I do not think anyone truly feels that way in this day in age. Although in the past someone may have been skeptical enough to believe such a thing as reality. I would think that a person who truthfully believed they lived within an illusion would function as such. If nothing to that person is actually real then the idea of life when interacting with other people may actually come off very rude. For reason being, this particular person doesn’t even believe in the reality they are currently living out.

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  15. Section 4
    Discussion answer/weekly essay
    Do you believe natural disasters that kill innocent people are "God's will" AND that people are nonetheless "culpable"?

    - I personally believe that everything happens for a reason. It may not always be a good reason or a bad reason but things happen. I also believe that everyone's time will come whether that be naturally or through an accident or disaster. It is God’s will for those innocent people's lives to be taken but it is for a reason. Everyone on this earth has some sort of purpose and a lot of people's purposes are up around the same time in life which is why God throws these disasters at us. I always wonder, "Why God? How could you do such a thing to these people who you call your children." Then I remember, he has his reasons and although we may not know what those are, they can never be anything but good. God is not evil and he wouldn't take evil actions. God is a wonderful and merciful God and loves us all as his own, but he also not only wants, but has to to teach people a lesson. God gives everyone their time to choose the “right path”. If we stray from the path, punishments are in order. But we also must keep in mind that everyone who doesn't believe in God, "belongs", per say, to Satan and that is the path you unfortunately follow/fall into if you don't follow God. I love and worship my God. He is mighty and he is merciful but I still always question why he must take so many people's lives in such a harsh way.

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  16. Section 4
    Tuesday Essay
    Do you believe natural disasters that kill innocent people are "God's will" AND that people are nonetheless "culpable"?

    I do not believe in "Gods will". I think everything acts in total randomness. I think people say "Everything happens for a reason" just to try to make the best out of terrible situations.I do not believe that God is killing innocent people by a storm, I believe people just got caught in a storm and died. I don't believe that children dying of cancer is a way of God's will, because I don't understand how killing children through illness justifies your authority of their enteral life. Storms happen and people don't move,people can't move, and people may believe in a different form of God.

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    1. A universe that is indifferent to human experience is actually less terrifying, to me, in view of all the tragedy and loss in our world, than one whose supreme author is supposed to know and underwrite everything that happens. I suppose it would be nice to know that all the bad things somehow contribute to a greater good, but if the bad things happen to me or my loved ones, the niceness is at least badly tainted. So I agree, storms and other natural phenomena just happen. Malevolence or vindictiveness or punishment are not in play.

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  17. I was very intrigued by the question of if I know I am dreaming right now or not. I can honestly say that yes, I do know that I am not. In dreams I feel as though there is not much thought that goes into things, although there may be some, there isn't in depth thinking. For me, in dreams I just "go with the flow" and I don't have much to do with making decisions. Although at the time of the dreams, I don't know I am dreaming, but I believe that if I had the capability to think in dreams like I do in real life, I would easily be able to tell.
    I do not believe in predestination. I believe that everyone paves their own road. I have always heard people blame their issues on other people, but in reality, there isn't much that hard work can't fix. You just can't be afraid to work.

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    1. Hello, Aaron! Great work on your post! This question also made me think quite deeply about my current state of consciousness. I shared that I would have dreams about getting ready for school as a child, and I really believed I was awake and getting ready. I enjoy questions like these.

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  18. Section 7
    Do you think Christian religiosity is "the grandest and greatest conspiracy of all?
    I think there is a possibility that it could be. People definitely have different beliefs and join different religions for many reasons. The definition of a conspiracy is a group of people planning to do something harmful or unlawful. This definition definitely does not apply to all Christians at all, but there's a possibility that it could. Looking back into history when racism was very prominent, Most of the white supremacists were christian church going men, and they were obviously engaging in harmful unlawful behaviors. I would consider that version of Christianity as a senses of conspiracy.

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  19. Do you think you know that you're not dreaming right now? Are there ever times when you don't think you know that?
    This question really made me think. I do believe that I know I am awake and conscious, but I suppose I cannot really know for sure. When I was younger, I would think I woke up for school and dream my entire morning routine only to find that I was asleep the whole time. Events such as those make me consider if I am awake or not. I often dream about school or work, where it will feel so real that I truly believe I am in class or at my job. This leads me to think that maybe I don't know if I am awake even when I think I am.
    Do you agree with Pascal that if you gamble on God and lose, "you lose nothing"? 72
    I do agree with Pascal on the notion that if you gamble on God and lose, you lose nothing. If you are faithful and live your life as God intended, and end up being wrong, you really don't lose much. It will be slightly disappointing, but it is better than not believing in Him and being wrong in the end.
    By limiting his "wager" to a choice between either Christian theism or atheism, does Pascal excludes too many other possible "bets"? 74
    Yes, I think that by limiting his wager to choose there either being a God or there not being one, he excludes too many other possibilities. There are plenty of other religions out there that believe in a god different from the Christian god. Just because Christianity was popular and relevant at the time does not mean that it was the only feasible religious choice.

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  20. Ash Warner Section 7
    Do you believe natural disasters that kill innocent people are "God's will" AND that people are nonetheless "culpable"? 155
    Personally, I do not believe that humans are culpable for natural disasters because of “gods will”. I believe that natural disaster are well natural so there’s nothing someone can do to stop or encourage it from happening. Take Hurricane Katrina for example, nobody in the city of New Orleans or even the state of Louisiana were going to stop that big ole hurricane from breaking those levees, nobody was and its nobodies fault. Now you can possibly blame the city of New Orleans for not putting more money into the levees but at the end of the day, it was still an F5 hurricane that ended up flooding 80% of the city but you cannot blame that on the people of New Orleans. Let us talk about the state of Texas, they on average the state with the most tornadoes, but they’re also regarded as one of the most religious/Christian states in America. So the question becomes, if natural disasters are just “gods will” and humans are culpable, why would he plague is most loyal followers with some of the most destructive storms in human history? The answer is he does not, because god doesn’t control the weather. We have discovered the technology that accurately explains the weather and why it happens. Now we cannot predict exactly when a tornado will happen, but we can explain how one occurs and the possibility of it happening.

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  21. Section 7
    Do you think you know that you're not dreaming right now? Are there ever times when you don't think you know that?
    I do not know that I am not dreaming right now. It feels like reality, but of course I can never be sure. This question reminds me of when I am dreaming, but it feels very real. I’ll frequently dream that I’m getting out of bed, getting ready for class, and going about my day only to wake up suddenly and discover that none of that was real. I can only imagine if I was actually dreaming right now and woke up. It would be terrible because it would mean my whole life and everyone I ever loved was not real.
    Do you think Christian religiosity is "the grandest and greatest conspiracy of all? (FL 89)
    I think so. I am an atheist so looking at the Christian traditons, it all seems so silly. Seeing grown adults like the pope wearing odd hates and robes, lighting candles feels like they’re playing make believe. When I hear people talk about Jesus and God (and being in the south, it happens a lot), I feel like laughing because once it lost meaning for me, Christianity seems so stupid. I do think its a conspiarcy and a great way to control people. If you raise children to live in fear of eternal hell, they will never be able to think for themselves.

    Log:
    -Weekly Essay on 2/4 post
    -Answered questions on 2/2 post
    -Answered questions on 1/28 post


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  22. Section 4
    Do you think you know that you're not dreaming right now? Are there ever times when you don't think you know that?
    I feel like when you are awake you feel and know that you are conscious. However, I have experienced dreams that are life like and even thought I have been awake before when I actually haven't. Those dreams are especially tricky as you aren't really aware that it's a dream until you wake up from that dream.
    Do you agree with Pascal that if you gamble on God and lose, "you lose nothing"?
    I agree with Pascal because I believe that even if you do or do not believe in him that he will accept you either way. If people don't believe in him then I believe that he will forgive those people for not believing. If people do believe in him then all the better but it won't change how he treats you.
    Do you believe natural disasters that kill innocent people are "God's will" AND that people are nonetheless "culpable"?
    I don't believe that because I feel like it's more the luck of draw then God's will to kill people. For me it's more just how lucky you are if something good or bad happens to you or the people around you.

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  23. Haven Word,Section 4
    Do you think you know that you're not dreaming right now? Are there ever times when you don't think you know that?
    This is one of my favorite questions! I believe that it is half and half honestly!
    I know that I am awake but sometimes I wonder is this reality really real or just someone else's dream world. There have been several occasions where I would be sleeping and my dream felt super real. Honestly too real for me to think I was sleeping. There are also occasions where i want it to be real and stay sleep for a really long time until someone wakes me up.

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