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LH
1. What kind of conversation was a success, for Socrates, and what did he mean by wisdom?
2. What theory is Plato's story of the cave connected with? Do you think some or all humans are naturally, in some allegorical sense, stuck in a cave?
3. What did Socrates say his inner voice told him? Do you think "inner voice" is literal?
FL
1. What statement by Karl Rove began to "crystallize" Fantasyland, in Kurt Andersen's mind?
2. What are half of Americans "absolutely certain" about? What do a quarter believe about vaccines?
3. What is Andersen trying to do with this book?
HWT
- What's one of the great unexplained wonders of human history?
- Do you agree that we cannot understand ourselves if we do not understand others?
- What was Descartes's "still pertinent" conclusion?
- Why did the Buddha think speculation about ultimate reality was fruitless?
- What aspects of western thought have most influenced global philosophy?
- What do Africans not have, according to Kwame Appiah?
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1. A conversation that ended with everyone realizing how little they actually knew was considered a success in Socrates' eyes. He believed that wisdom came from understanding the nature of our existence and the limits of our knowledge.
2. Plato's cave story is related to human perception versus reality. I do think that a large portion of the world is "stuck in a cave", though I find it hard to believe that a significant portion would choose to turn to face the fire.
3. Socrates said his inner voice told him to question everything. I think that an "inner voice" is real in the sense that it is a way to personify ones core beliefs and thoughts.
FL
1. "People in the reality-based community believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore." Was the phrase that crystallized Fantasyland.
2. Half of Americans are certain that Heaven exists, and one quarter of Americans believe that vaccines cause autism.
3. Andersen's goal in this book is to explain how America got to this point and help the reader understand the scope of the issues we currently face.
HWT
1. One of the great unexplained wonders of human history is the fact that written philosophy emerged all over the world independent of each other at around the same time.
2. I do agree that we cannot understand ourselves if we do not understand others.
3. Descartes's "still pertinent" conclusion was that "we are clearly persuaded more by custom and example than by any certain knowledge".
4. The Buddha thought speculation about ultimate reality was fruitless because he believed the only evidence available to
us is that of experience, meaning one can only understand through effort.
LH
ReplyDelete1. When people started to realize how little they actually knew was a success for Socrates because it is "better than to carry on believing that you understood something when you didn't."
2. Plato's story about the cave is connected to Plato's Theory of Forms. I think some humans are naturally stuck in a cave. What I think is that sometimes people could be stuck in a different reality which can cause them to run "towards the fire."
3. Socrates's inner voice told him to continue to question everything and that "he could not betray it." I think the inner voice is literal. From my current understanding, Socrates's inner voice is wanting him to question everything in order to gain more insight and knowledge.
FL
1. The statement by Karl Rove that began to crystallize was when Rove introduced reality-based community. Rove told a reporter, "People "in the reality-based community...believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality." Rove then stated, "That's not the way the world works anymore."
2. Half of Americans are "absolutely certain" about Heaven's existence and a quarter of people believe that vaccines cause autism.
3. Andersen wants people to be aware of the changes and choices that America has made along the way. People can begin to expand their knowledge about the issues that are occurring across America.
HWT
1. Philosophy growing in many different parts of the globe around the same time is one of the great unexplained wonders of human history.
2. I agree that we are unable to understand ourselves if we do not understand others. I think it is like trying to teach someone else a subject that you are not completely unfamiliar with.
3. Descartes's conclusion is that people are more likely to be persuaded by custom and example rather than any other kind of knowledge.
4. Buddha argued that the evidence that is accessible to us is through experience which means that we are only able to learn from what we go through.
5. The West had a heavy influence on philosophy and were easily identified globally.
6. According to Kwame Appiah, Africans did not have a common traditionally culture, common languages, a common religious or conceptual vocabulary.
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On number 6 under HWT, there is a small correction I forgot to make. It is supposed to say "common traditional culture."
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1. “A conversation that ended in everyone realizing how little they knew was for him a success.” (Warburton, 2) Socrates believed in conversation that included asking people questions and testing the limits of their understanding. Wisdom to Socrates was “understanding the true nature of our existence, including the limits of what we can know.” (Warburton, 3)
2. The story of the cave is connected to Plato’s Theory of forms. (Warburton, 5) I believe some people are stuck in an allegorical cave because it can be hard to break out of what we are told is trustworthy and look past it. Especially in today’s age, where we are constantly looking at the world through social media and news outlets, it can be hard to form your views and see the truth.
3. Socrates inner voice said to him, “keep questioning everything.” (Warburton, 8) Socrates’s inner voice is a personification of his beliefs, something that he hears to help him keep going in his search for wisdom.
FL
1. Karl Rove’s statement "People in the reality-based community believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore." is what crystalized fantasyland.
2. Half of americans are certain heaven exists and a quarter believes vaccine causes autism.
3. Anderson purpose in the book is to help readers understand the changes and choices that led america to the state it is in.
HWT
1. One of the unexplained wonders of human hsitory is how philosophy grew all alround the world.
2. I agree that we cannot understand ourselves if we cant understand others.
3. Descartes conclusion is that we “are clearly persuaded more by custom and example than by any certain knowledge".
4. Buddha though speculation about ultimate reality was fruitless because he that evidence is only accessible through through experience.
Phillip Smith
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LH
1. A conversation that is a success for Socrates is, “a conversation that ended in everyone realizing how little they knew was for him a success.” Wisdom for Socrates was, “understanding the true nature of our existence, including the limits of what we can know.”
2. . The theory that Plato’s story of the cave connects to is, “Plato’s theory of Forms.” Yes, I do believe that many of not all humans are stuck in cave because there are not many people in the world that really think about what they do every day. Many people just take as what it is.
3. Socrates inner voice told him, “To keep questioning everything.” I think that the inner voice was literal to him in a sense.
FL
LH
ReplyDelete1. Socrates believed the conversations that left people realizing how little they really know was a success. His idea of wisdom was not putting a limit on our knowledge but understanding our overall existence.
2. Plato's story of the cave is connected with his theory Plato's Theory of Forms. I think the majority of humans are in some sense "stuck in a cave". Regardless of race, religion, or sexual orientation, we all seem to have this one goal and an unconscious way of believing how the world works. While we may present it in different ways, it all is the same in the end and does not look beyond it.
3.Socrates inner voice told him to keep questioning everything. I don't think his inner voice was literal, but then again I would not be surprised if it was. Inner voice may have just meant his intuition or conscience similar to what most people have.
This is Kloey Jacksons, section 001
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ReplyDeleteLH:
1. For Socrates a good conversation and wisdom rooted from planting a seed of doubt in the mind, making the other person question themselves.
2. Plato's story of the cave was about not just seeing what's around you but seeking another outlook (object<thought). I don't have an answer on if we are "stuck in a cave" because I am not sure. You could argue either way but I like to try and live in the moment.
3. Socrates stated that he had an inner voice that would tell him right from wrong. I believe he is talking about his conscious.
FL:
1. "People in the reality-based community believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore."
2. Half of Americans are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN about heaven existing, while a quarter believe vaccines cause autism.
3. With this book the author wants to encourage the readers to stop linking what they wish to believe to the visible facts.
HWT:
1. One of the great unexplained events of human history is that written philosophy hit different places of the world around the same time.
2. I agree in a sense because it is important to experience other cultures and other ideas to help build morals/ view the world.
3. Descartes "still pertinent" conclusion was that where we live determines the way we think.
4. Buddha believed that reality was fruitless because experience doesn't support speculations.
5. Concrete action from western thought influenced global philosophy.
6. Kwame Appiah said that in philosophy Africans don't have common language, culture, etc, because Africa is very diverse.
Chapter 1 - Sameria Bohanon
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1. The success for Socrates was A conversation that ended in everyone realizing
how little they knew was for him a success, The word ‘philosopher’ comes from the Greek words meaning ‘love of wisdom’. Socrates meant understanding the true nature of our
existence, including the limits of what we can know.
2. Plato's story about the cave is connected toTheory of Forms.Honestly, I think many people are naturally stuck in a cave, because people try to live their lives like social media and not truly see the truth of what life really is.
3. Socrates' inner voice told him to keep questioning everything, and he could not betray it. I think Socrates has an inner voice that is telling him to continue pushing for knowledge and answers.
FL
1. The statement was, "People "in the reality-based community...believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality." Rove then stated, "That's not the way the world works anymore."
2. Half of Americans are "absolutely certain" about Heaven's existence and a quarter of people believe that vaccines cause autism.
3. What is Andersen trying to do with this book? Andersen is speaking to readers to help them understand the changes and choices America has led to.
HWT
One of the great unexplained wonders of human history is that written philosophy first flowered entirely separately in different parts of the globe at more or less the same time. I do agree, sometimes we do need to hear things we don't want to hear to really understand whatever the situation is and listen to others thoughts.
Descartes drew is still pertinent, that wherever we live ‘we are clearly persuaded more by custom and example than by any certain knowledge.’
The Buddha walked a middle path, arguing that the only evidence available to us is that of experience, which makes speculation as to the nature of ‘ultimate’ reality fruitless.
The most influential have been the philosophies that suggested concrete action, to maintain the status quo.
Section 6
Sorry weren't numbered. HWT
ReplyDelete1. One of the great unexplained wonders of human history is that written philosophy first flowered entirely separately in different parts of the globe at more or less the same time.
2. I do agree, sometimes we do need to hear things we don't want to hear to really understand whatever the situation is and listen to others thoughts.
3. Descartes drew is still pertinent, that wherever we live ‘we are clearly persuaded more by custom and example than by any certain knowledge.’
4. The Buddha walked a middle path, arguing that the only evidence available to us is that of experience, which makes speculation as to the nature of ‘ultimate’ reality fruitless.
5. The most influential have been the philosophies that suggested concrete action, to maintain the status quo.
6. According to Kwame Appiah? Do not have a common traditional culture, common languages, a common religious or conceptual vocabulary.
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1. When people become more confused about their beliefs than they were before they talked with Socrates.
2. Plato’s Theory of Forms. I feel like when people are at their lowest, they are stuck in a cave, but over time they can grow and gradually leave the cave and adjust to the blinding light on the other side.
3. To keep on asking questions. I believe it was his instinct or conscious, not something literal.
HWT
1. Written philosophy blossomed around the same time in different parts of the world
2. I agree as part of the process of developing your own beliefs is by learning from your environment
3. “We are clearly persuaded more by custom and example than by any certain knowledge”.
4. The only evidence available is experience
5. The philosophy that suggested concrete action versus individual thought
6. A common culture, language, and vocabulary since Africa is so diverse.
FL
1. “People in the reality-based community believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernable reality. That’s not the way the world works anymore.”
2. They believe in the existence of heaven. That they cause autism
3. To understand what choices and changes got America to this point.
LH
ReplyDelete1.A conversation that ended in everyone realizing how little they knew was a success to Socrates. In addition, wisdom for Socrates was not knowing a lot of facts, or knowing how to do something, but rather it meant we understand the true nature of our existence, including the limits of what we can know.
2.The story of the cave is connected with Plato’s Theory of Forms - a philosophy that focuses on the ideas of things rather than the things themselves. I think many humans are naturally stuck in a cave because humans tend to like routine and avoid change. They find comfort in what they know and danger or uncertainty in anything different.
3. Socrates said in sight of his death that his inner voice told him to keep questioning everything and not betray that action. I believe he thought of his inner voice as “the voice of reason.” He would not want to live life quietly, he believed he was meant to ask the difficult questions. With this in mind I think the “inner voice” could be quite literal depending on who you ask. To some extent everyone has a moral compass, but I believe the extent of that is limited to what ideology you were born with and the environment you grew up in.
FL
1. It was the statement of the phrase “reality-based community” in the early 2000s that began to crystallize Fantasyland. It was stated by Karl Rove under the Bush administration.
2. Half of Americans are “absolutely certain” about the existence of heaven. A quarter of Americans believe that vaccines cause autism.
3. Anderson is wanting to explore why we are like this and prompt readers to question their actions and beliefs in a philosophical sense. He is asking the questions of why and how did Americans get to the point of entitlement where they’ll believe anything they want to, with the assumption that their beliefs are equal to or superior to anyone else’s?
HWT
1. It is written that one of the great unexplained wonders of human history is that written philosophy first flowered entirely separately in different parts of the globe more or less at the same time.
2. I do agree that we cannot understand ourselves if we do not understand others. No one should succumb to a single story, which is exactly what would happen if we didn’t make the effort to understand other perspectives and experiences. We are a very social species and deeply influenced by others.
3. Descartes’s “still pertinent” conclusion is that we are clearly persuaded more by custom and example than by any certain knowledge. Realizing that there are other perspectives, and we have no reason to be “absolutely certain.” It is important to question things and take the right steps to a greater understanding.
4. Buddha is said to have walked a “middle path,” thinking that speculation about ultimate reality was fruitless because he believed the only evidence available to us is that of experience.
What aspects of western thought have most influenced global philosophy?
The philosophies that suggest concrete action is an aspect of how influential western thought is on a global scale. Karl Marx, John Stuart Mill, and Charles Darwin are all western figures that had philosophies that were used to influence and challenge others around the world.
5. According to Kwame Appiah, Africans do not have a common traditional culture, common language, common language, or common conceptual culture. To the world, Africa is considered not very diverse, when it is the exact opposite. Africa is a continent after all, not a country.
Emily S. Section #12
ReplyDeleteLH
1. What kind of conversation was a success, for Socrates, and what did he mean by wisdom?
- Socrates's understanding of wisdom is understanding existence and realizing that we don't know everything. Although it can be easy to think we know something, but it might not be the case
2. What theory is Plato's story of the cave connected with? Do you think some or all humans are naturally, in some allegorical sense, stuck in a cave?
- Plato's story is the lack of education. In my opinion not everyone is going to know about a certain topic. Lets say I know nothing about art, but someone I know does. I'm lacking knowledge (or in a cave) because I know little to nothing about art.
3. What did Socrates say his inner voice told him? Do you think "inner voice" is literal?
- It told him to keep asking questions. I can see both sides to this argument because everyone has an inner voice and I think what he meant was staying true to his beliefs
FL
1. What statement by Karl Rove began to "crystallize" Fantasyland, in Kurt Andersen's mind?
- the phrase "reality-based community". he believed that "solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality"
2. What are half of Americans "absolutely certain" about? What do a quarter believe about vaccines?
- they're certain that heaven and hell exist. Americans believe that vaccines cause autism
3. What is Andersen trying to do with this book?
He's trying to help improve the readers way of thinking by helping them question what's right in front of them
HWT
What's one of the great unexplained wonders of human history?
- That philosophy exists in many parts of the world at nearly the same time
Do you agree that we cannot understand ourselves if we do not understand others?
- yes because we are all similar and can learn more from ourselves by understanding and listening to our peers
What was Descartes's "still pertinent" conclusion?
- We always have to question what's given to us because there could be other perspectives that we haven't even thought about and us as people can't be set on one belief without knowing the whole story
Why did the Buddha think speculation about ultimate reality was fruitless?
- Buddha took what's called the "middle path" the middle path is the experiences we have as individuals
What aspects of western thought have most influenced global philosophy?
- The idea of thinking deeper about a topic. The book talked about how many places like Japan didnt even have a word to describe Philosophy until the idea became a popular topic
What do Africans not have, according to Kwame Appiah?
- According to Kwame Appiah, Africans don't have a common common language
1. What kind of conversation was a success, for Socrates, and what did he mean by wisdom?
ReplyDeleteFor Socrates, a successful conversation meant leaving people wanting to know more because they realized how little they actually knew. He wanted them to see the world for what it really is instead of believing what they thought they knew.
2. What theory is Plato's story of the cave connected with? Do you think some or all humans are naturally, in some allegorical sense, stuck in a cave?
It is connected with Plato's Theory of Forms. As humans we all are stuck in this metaphorical cave, and likely will be forever. Humans cannot know certain things outside of our realm, partly because it's unknowable but also because attaining this information would hinder our daily functioning greatly.
3. What did Socrates say his inner voice told him? Do you think "inner voice" is literal?
His inner voice told him to never stop questioning. The inner voice is not literal in the sense that it was an actual thought or voice, but literal in the sense that it was an intense feeling coming from his integrity.
FL
1. What statement by Karl Rove began to "crystallize" Fantasyland, in Kurt Andersen's mind?
"in the reality based community,' he told a reporter, 'believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore."
2. What are half of Americans "absolutely certain" about? What do a quarter believe about vaccines?
Half of Americans are absolutely certain that heaven exists. A quarter of Americans believe that vaccines give you autism.
3. What is Andersen trying to do with this book?
Andersen is trying to point out the "magical thinking" that has taken over America. He wants to point out how ridiculous it is that Americans would rather believe what they want rather than what is factual.
1. What's one of the great unexplained wonders of human history?
That written philosophy blossomed in different parts of the world at roughly the same times.
2. Do you agree that we cannot understand ourselves if we do not understand others?
Yes. We are all very similar to each other even if we would like to think otherwise. Knowing how someone else thinks can offer us insight into our own thoughts and beliefs that we didn't realize we had.
3. What was Descartes's "still pertinent" conclusion?
His conclusion is that we are more influenced by customs rather than knowledge. We need to question everything and attempt to learn more about the perspectives we have disregarded.
Why did the Buddha think speculation about ultimate reality was fruitless?
He believed the only evidence available to us is experience, he walked what is called the "middle path"
4. What aspects of western thought have most influenced global philosophy?
The western idea of concrete action influenced global philosophy.
5. What do Africans not have, according to Kwame Appiah?
They do not have a central language, culture, vocabulary, or religion.
Jon Blalock : Section #7
ReplyDelete1. Socrates believed face-to-face conversations were more useful than writing things down. Socrates believed wisdom was understanding the nature of the existence of humans rather than knowing how to do things or facts.
2. Plato’s cave story is connected with Plato’s theory of forms. I do believe all humans, in some way, are stuck in a cave like in Plato’s story. People may not experience some things because tell them not to.
3. Socrates inner voice told him to keep questioning everything. While I don’t believe Socrates had an “inner voice,” literally, I believe that was a way to describe the way he thought and lived. He didn’t want to live a life where he couldn’t question his existence and find a deeper meaning to life.
Section 11
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1. Socrates preferred face-to-face conversations, instead of writing things down for others to read. He thought that there were to be more benefits when having a back-and-forth conversation with someone. Wisdom to Socrates meant being able to grasp the real essence of our own existence.
FL
1. "(People) in the reality-based community believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore."
Aaron Petty Section #7
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1. Conversations where Socrates made the other person realize how little they knew was a success for him. He defined wisdom as knowing what you are talking about. Many people can do things, but that doesn't mean they know what they are doing.
2. Plato's cave story is connected with the theory that there is a big difference between reality and appearance. The only way to discern what is reality is to use one's mind and not their senses. I think people believe what they want to believe. Most people don't think deeply enough about what reality is so yes I do believe most people are stuck in a cave.
3. He said his inner voice told him to continue questioning everything. I think the concept of inner voice is different for certain people. Some hear themselves talking back to them and others create an internal dialogue where they are both parties. Personally, I percieve my inner voice as dialogue between myself. A conversation with myself to be specific.
Section #7
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1. A conversation that ended in success for Socrates was a conversation that ended with another person realizing that they were wrong about something. This doesn't mean that they had to be completely wrong about everything they thought, just that they were wrong in some way, even if only a small way. Wisdom for socrates meant that he understood the inner workings of the world, and the depth of our minds.
2. Plato's cave story is connected with the theory of forms. I believe that all people are in some way naturally stuck in a cave.
3. Socrates said that his inner voice told him to keep questioning everything. He would rather die than to stop doing that. In some ways I believe that this inner voice is literal. In others I believe that it is not. I think his inner voice are his inner thoughts, so that leads me to believe that the inner voice really is literal.
Section #12
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1. The conversation that was a success to Socrates was knowing how little people know how to do things. Wisdom for Socrates was not knowing a lot of facts or knowing how to do something, but meant understanding the true nature of our existence, including the limits of what we can know.
2. The story of the cave is connected with Plato's Theory of Forms. Yes, because people can be "stuck in a cave" mentally or spiritually.
3. The inner voice told Socrates is to question everything and do not betray it. No, because I think the "inner voice" means following what your gut or heart tells you to choose or what not to choose.
HWT
1. One of the great unexplained wonders of human history was that written philosophy flowered entirely separate in different parts of the world at more or less the same time.
2. Yes, because I believe that the others' sides of opinions about you can effect how you understand yourself from others' perspective, which can make you reflect how you think and understand yourself.
3. Descartes's "still pertinent" conclusion was that, "wherever we live 'we are clearly persuaded more by custom and example than by many certain knowledge."
4. The reasoning is because the Buddha argued that the only evidence available to us is that of experience.
5. The philosophies that suggested concrete action.
6. Africans do not have a same traditional culture, languages, religious or conceptual vocabulary.
Sydney Boyce, #11
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1. A successful conversation to Socrates was one that ended in the other person confused about what they thought they knew. About whether it was truly right, maybe even questioning other thoughts. He wanted people to question the things around them instead of taking the world as is, no questions asked.
2. Plato's story about the cave was to explain his theory on Forms. I think that even if we are stuck in a cave, that doesn't mean that the cave is contrary to reality. If it is all we know, then it is our reality; it would have to be.
3. Socrates said that his inner voice told him to continue to question everything, and to never accept the world the way he sees it. I think the phrase inner voice was used to personify his core beliefs and driving motivation.
Kaleb Toon - Section #12
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1. To Socrates, any conversation he had that he would consider a "success" is a conversation in which he made the individual or group he was conversing with realize that they did not know everything they thought they knew. To him, wisdom meant to not know a lot of things, rather to gain an extent of knowledge about the world through experiencing it, and expanding that bank of knowledge with each new experience.
2. In his cave story, Plato describes humans as inherently judgmental creatures in the way that rather than taking the effort to find truth in what they are experiencing, they would rather make up stories to make better sense of their environment. He elaborates on this by suggesting that these same individuals are so stubborn in their beliefs, that if one challenges their preconceived ideas, then those challenges are inherently wrong, solely because they contradict what they previously believed to be true.
3. Socrates claimed to have an inner voice that would instruct him to always question everything. He believed in what this voice so much he was willing to give his life to continue in his pursuit for knowledge, even if he could no longer share this knowledge with others. While I believe that this "inner voice" was in fact in a way something Socrates experienced, I am personally convinced that this is just the term he would use to group all of his various inner dialogues and thoughts together in a way that he could express what was going on inside his head in the simplest manner he could.
Mona Ikbariah
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LH-
1- Socrates believed that having a face-to-face conversation is better than writing, because in a conversation you can argue back and forth but writing on a piece of paper “won’t answer you back”. Also, it allows the person to convey their message in a better way. What Socrates meant by wisdom is not knowing a lot of facts and information but recognizing your ignorance.
2- Plato’s story of the cave relates to the Plato’s Theory of Forms. Yes, I believe that some humans are stuck in a cave. As humans we are sometimes told certain things either from our parents, from social media, or from our cultures that we just know and don’t question. Whereas, if we just look deeply into them or just observe them more, we will uncover different things.
3- Socrates inner voice told him to keep questioning everything. I believe that the “inner voice” is literal because it expresses what we think and believe. Most of the times this voice is right, and I believe that we should follow it.
Leah Knight #12
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3. I think Socrates truly had an inner voice. I believe the inner voice to be our main motivators, whether it's our conscience, survival instincts, or desire. Sometimes, there is something within you that just will not sit still and requires action. For Socrates this was his desire to question everything.
HWT
1. It is often questioned how so many of the world's greatest minds came to be around the same time. Humanity has been around for a good amount of time; however, similar events seem to happen all around the world in a close time span. No one understands why this happens. You could really make a good argument for God and Fate when discussing topics like this.
2. I am a firm believer that we experience the world through others as well as ourselves. We are a culmination of our parents, friends, mentors, teachers, and some impactful strangers. Understanding other people can help you reveal new beliefs, interests, and opinions you may have. On the other hand, understanding someone who is different than you may have you questioning yourself or further understanding why you believe what you believe.
LH:
ReplyDelete1. Socrates considers a conversation in which one walks away unsure of their own ideas, one that is successful. By wisdom he meant that wisdom was the realization of what little wisdom you did have, and the understanding that there are various possibilities to something.
2. Plato’s story of a cave represents the bubble of a person’s certain views. I believe that most people are “stuck in a cave” as they either find it hard or rather refuse to see something from someone else's perspective or understand their beliefs.
3. Socrates' inner voice told him to question everything. I think his inner voice very well could have been in a literal since, whereas he always reminded himself as a thought to himself, or it could be that the voice was merely a sign to his curiosity and wonder about things.
FL:
1. people in the reality-based community believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore." -- this crystallized Fantasyland.
2. Half American’s believe heaven exists, while a quarter of people believe that vaccines cause autism.
3. Anderson wants people to be aware of the changes in America and the growth and choices it has made along the way.
HWT:
1. The period of written philosophy emerged at the same time across the world, yet independently of each other.
2. I do. I believe that without understanding oth.rs we cannot fully understand ourselves however much we think we do, because without understanding others we cannot understand what is and is not ourselves.
3. “We are clearly persuaded more by custom and example than by any certain knowledge".
4. Buddha speculated that one could only learn of evidence through the reality of our experiences and how we interpret them.
5. “Many developments in global philosophy are a response to Western thoughts.”
6. Africans “-do not have a common traditional culture, common languages, a common religious or conceptual vocabulary...” says Kwame.
Josh Keifer- section #12
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Socrates believed that a successful conversation was a conversation where the recipient questioned the ideologies that Socrates was bringing forth, but also questioning the ideologies that the recipient had been living their life on. Socrates would focus on removing the black and white mindset people had with morals and the idea of "good and bad" by creating a grey area that could be considered both good and bad depending on the perspective the other person held. He believed a good conversation was one where both parties can argue with reason but inevitably creates more questions than answers. He believed wisdom was understanding certain aspects of life through a point of view that incorporates other's realities and understandings.
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Plato's story of the cave is directly tied to Plato's theory of forms. This theory states that appearances are inherently deceiving and you can only trust the outline or "form" the appearance is based off of. I believe that every human is metaphorically "stuck in a cave" until they develop the self awareness to look at things beyond face value. Plato mentions that appearances are deceiving, in which I believe that believing appearances is what keeps you locked inside the cave. You can only see what other people want you to see, and the moment that you become aware of alternative motives that other people have (without becoming overly paranoid) you allow yourself to see life and society for what it really is.
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Socrates says that his inner voice instructed him to keep questioning everything. I believe that Socrates's inner voice is a construct of his curiosity and ambition. Although not a literal voice, it is the part of his mind where he allowed himself to do the most critical thinking. This voice in his head created the world and life that he lived in and without it, he didn't believe his life would be worth living at all.
Fantasy Land
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Karl Rove used the term "reality- based community" to describe a society that believes problems should be solved solely with "judicious study of discernible reality" rather than a reality based in personal opinions and judgements.
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Half of Americans are absolutely certain that there is a heaven and 1/4 of Americans believe that vaccines give kids autism
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He is trying to introduce a new level of self- awareness to the readers by showing them the absurdity behind some of the claims people make
HWT
1)How philosophy managed to travel the world and emerge at relatively the same time
2) Yes because understanding others allows us to look at decisions made by others objectively, which in turn allows us to see how are own decisions may look to the outside world.
3) Our realities are based off of our experiences and knowledge and the only way to break away from our perspectives is to indulge in those of others and obtain an understanding of their life.
4) They believed the only real "truths" came from experience
5)The introduction of western thought to the world happened fairly recently, leaving us to assume that the world realized that conversation was worth having.
6) According to Kwame Appiah, Africans don't have a common language or religious culture.
Heidi Engle, Section #7
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1. A successful conversation to Socrates was one "that ended in everyone realizing how little they knew." I understand this to mean that he felt accomplished when he pushed others to expand the boundaries of their thinking and ask more questions about what they believed and why they believed it.
2. The story of the inner cave has to do with Plato's thoughts around perceptions versus reality. The people chained up in the cave believed the shadows and the cave to be the world because that was all that they could physically see. When the one prisoner broke free, he was able to see and experience more of the world outside of the cave. However, the others did not believe him because they had not experienced it for themselves. I think this is very prevalent in our current world. People often find it difficult to see or understand things from another person's perspective because it is not something that they have experienced in their own life. They see their own perception of reality as the only perception of reality.
3. Socrates heard his inner voice tell him to keep questioning everything. I don't believe that it was a literal inner voice. I think it was a personal conviction of his. He spent his life asking questions and trying to gain a deeper understanding. He would have been betraying himself if he had stopped questioning everything simply to make others more comfortable.
HWT
ReplyDeleteI most definitely agree that we cannot understand ourselves without understanding one another. I really enjoyed the sedimentary philosophy metaphor used in the introduction of this book. What is so unique about human intelligence is how collaborative it is. Our personal experiences shape our view and understanding of the world and, since we all have different experiences, we have different perceptions of the same world. It is important to understand all perceptions of this world in order to get a glimpse of it's true nature.
LH
Socrates' inner voice told him to never stop questioning. I believe this voice was literal to a certain extent. Obviously, we refer to this as one's conscience. This is our "moral compass" that allegedly guides our decisions. The question becomes whether this "voice" is a separate entity from your own thoughts, or just an extension of them. Did a voice other than his own literally speak inside his head, or was it just the sedimented philosophy to never stop questioning existence echoing in Socrates' mind?
Section #11
~ Aviree Moore
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When the term "reality-based community" was coined by Karl Rove, in an interview with a reporter during the Bush Administration. "That's not the way the world works anymore." It helped solidify the idea that America no longer adheres to, what should be, the expected technique of solving issues from a clear, logical standpoint of observing objective reality.
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Americans have the notion that there are absolutes in the ideas of "Heaven" and "Hell", that rewards the good and punishes the evil. That there is also an afterlife and definite after our expiration date.
A quarter believes that vaccines -- made to protect humanity against deadly diseases -- actually is the cause for autism. An example of disillusionment and "gut" feeling that people deem to be true.
3. What is Andersen trying to do with this book?
America no longer desires factual, specific, information in order to conclusively determine problems/issues that may arise within society. Anderson gives a captivating analysis regarding American's mindsets shifting through the eras from reality to individual fantasies, while advocating and giving proper guidelines for future shifts in mindsets to establish fantasies back to reality.
LH: 1. A successful conversation as it would be defined by Socrates would be one "that ended in everyone realizing how little they knew"
ReplyDelete2. Plato's metaphor involving a cave and men chained to the wall, can be viewed as how Plato sees the world, as his perspective is based on the difference of reality and perception.
3. Socrates inner voice told him to never stop asking questions, so for him to stop asking questions would be worse than death.
LH
ReplyDelete1. In the eyes of Socrates any conversation that left the other party uncertain of something they had once were certain of was deemed to be a successful conversation. In the eyes of socrates wisdom was understanding the true nature of existence.
2. Plato’s tale of the cave is connected to the awakening of the philosopher as they open their eyes to the truth of the world. I don’t think that some people are perpetually stuck in a cave but instead that do to each persons natural disposition some require more aid for them to see truth due to external and internal reasons.
3. Socrates claimed that his “inner voice” urged him to continue to question things. I find it doubtful that this was meant to be understood by a literal interpretation but rather much like much of us unconsciously gravitate towards our phones he would be inclined to question others similar to an intrusive thought. What really lead to his demise was his want to share with others, but I think he would see not doung so a meager existence.
FL
1. Kurt Anderson began to grasp the extent of our present Fantasyland after hear Rove describe the absence of reality based solutions, “[People] in the reality based community believe that solutions emerge from hydicious study of dicernible reality. That’s not the way the world really workd anymore,” (Karl Rove).
2. Half of american are certain that Heaven exists, ruled over by a personal God while a quater of Americans believe that vaxines cause autism, that Donald Trump won the popular vote in the 2016 election, and the 44th president is or was the antichrist.
3. Through this book Kurt Anderson is attempting to diagnose this American disposition to spout fantasy conjecture, portray its hold on society, and offer possible reasons that it has plagued us.
Hannah Crumley section #11
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1. What kind of conversation was a success, for Socrates, and what did he mean by wisdom?
Conversations were a success for Socrates when he was able to make people realize that they did not know what they thought they knew. He did not want people to believe that they knew something that they did not know. To Socrates, wisdom meant that you understand the true nature or existence. This also included the limits of the things we didn’t know.
2. What theory is Plato's story of the cave connected with? Do you think some or all humans are naturally, in some allegorical sense, stuck in a cave?
Plato’s story of the cave is connected to the Theory of Forms. I do think that all humans are naturally stuck in a cave.
3. What did Socrates say his inner voice told him? Do you think "inner voice" is literal?
Socrates stated that his inner voice told him to keep questioning everything. The “inner voice” is not a literal voice. It is more so the desire to keep questioning and he pursues that desire.
Section #12
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1: Socrates's successful conversations left those involved in a state of realization of how little they truly know. They questioned their ideas as he passed on new concepts, and both parties gain more wisdom with their true nature of existence.
2: The story of Plato's cave is a metaphorical of how the human nature of though "traps them in a cave". I believe that humans are naturally stuck in that cave, until the awakening they have to the true meaning of existence. Their escape come from the opening of their eyes to the reality of life as they consume it more easily.
3: Socrate's inner voice told him to question everything. The "inner voice" is not literal, but it is what drives choice in humans. The piece that creates doubt and hesitance, or inclination and willingness.
What did Socrates say his inner voice told him? Do you think "inner voice" is literal?
ReplyDeleteSocrates' says his inner voice told him to keep questioning everything, and that he could not betray it. Socrates is not the only philosopher or mystic to speak of this "inner voice." many teachers and holders of wisdom throughout our history have advised us of this voice. Jalal-ad Din Rumi dedicated a notable amount of works to the "inner voice" which is believed to be intuition. The intuition in American culture is described as a "Gut Feeling" something you are advised to follow; that is the teachings of our philosophers materializing in a way easier for us modern humans to understand. The duo of understanding that there is an intuition, and also not to betray it, or to "listen." as Rumi would say, is a path to enlightenment. The intuition is our internal guide, some mystics and cultures believe it is a spiritual guide, but thankfully it is accepted now that you should take this "inner voice" or intuition into consideration in your everyday life. Following your intuition is believed to lead to happier existence, however it is a mostly unexplainable force we live with, an extension of our subconscious desires and moral compass; maybe not a literal voice, but listen and you'll find an answer. There is a mutual understanding across human beings that the direction of the intuition, inner voice, or gut feeling, is generally what you prefer and will work for you.
LH
ReplyDelete3.Socrates inner voice told him to question everything. I don’t think it was literal I think it was just so that he could let go and quit picking at everything thinking there is going to be something wrong w it.
Fl
2.Half of americans are certain heaven exists and a quarter believes vaccine causes autism.
3. I believe that the author is trying to get the readers to connect with why America is the way it is today and what lead it to that point what caused it to change.
HWT
2. Yes and no because some people need to understand them selves before they understand others but some people cannot understand themselves if they don’t see it from another pov.
-samantha pleitez
LH 1: A successful conversation for Socrates ended with discussing parties realizing that they did not know as much as they thought they may have. For Socrates wisdom was understanding our limits as humans. Specifically that it is impossible to know everything.
ReplyDeleteLH 2: The story of the cave is connected to Plato’s Theory of Forms. I would say that most people do find themselves stuck in a cave without understanding that there is more to their world.
LH 3: Socrates inner voice told him to keep questioning everything. I do believe that this is a genuine internal dialogue that kept his mind wondering and thirsting for knowledge and wisdom.
FL 1: People “in the reality-based community believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality. That’s not the way the world really works anymore”
FL 2: Half of Americans are absolutely certain that heaven exists. A quarter believe that vaccines cause autism
FL 3: Anderson is trying to show that we as a society have lost track of the reality that binds us together. We are no longer on the same playing field, no longer playing the same game, and are definitely not playing by the same rules. This is not some new occurrence that suddenly appeared in the new millennium. since the inception of the United States individualism and feelings of clandestine power have overruled factual and scientific based reasoning. However, it has been growing over time. Furthermore, in our modern era where information and misinformation are just as easily accessible, chaos has slowly taken over and the lines between facts and “feelings” have not only been blurred, but have essentially disappeared.
Any conversation Socrates had in which he was able to make someone think about a common concept in a different way was a success for him. Wisdom was his willingness to admit that he didn’t know something and his willingness to learn and thinks about things in a new light. (Laney #11)
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1. Written philosophy first flowered entirely separately in different parts of the globe at more or less the same time.
2. No, you cannot understand others if you do not understand yourself. Because as people say, "You cannot love others if you do not love yourself."
3. The "still pertinent" conclusion contains the fact that we can only break away from the thoughts of our own perspectives and to start understanding others perspectives. As well as, get a better understanding of life itself.
4.They believed reality was fruitless because they believed everything had to come from and experience.
5. By leading people to finally find reasoning for having the aspect of western thought studied.
6. Common languages or religious culture is some things that Kwame Appiah did not believe Africans had.
Socrates considered a conversation where someone admitted they did not know something (or anything at all really) was a success to him. As the Oracle at Delphi said, Socrates was the wisest in Athens because of his willingness to admit he did not know something. How can someone know everything? They cannot. It is impossible for someone to know everything. There will always be someone smarter, more knowledgeable then ourselves, and there is no shame in admitting that.
ReplyDeleteWe must learn to understand our own beliefs, our own hearts and minds before we can begin to understand others.
I believe Socrates meant that his "inner voice" was his deepest most personal thoughts. It went against everything to run when he believed that he did nothing wrong.
Socrates touched on wisdom valued by argument, reasoning and asking questions and not believing things just because someone important said it. This comes to the idea of mistaking appearances for reality. I think these are very impotent words because we experience this today in our society, we tend to follow someone just because of power they hold and don't look at the accuracy reasoning behind actions or words.
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ReplyDeleteSocrates was kind of a savage when it came to conversation. He enjoyed picking apart anything and everything his adversaries said until they were reduced into a pit of incompetence, and I mean that quite literally. He was only satisfied with a conversation once the other person was able to acknowledge that they actually had no idea what they were talking about, and that ability to acknowledge what one does not know is what he called "wisdom."
HWT
ReplyDelete1. philosophy emerged around the world at around the same time despite none of the people communicating with one another
2. I do agree because we do not know what sets ourselves apart as individuals if we cannot compare ourselves to others.
3. Descartes's "still pertinent" conclusion was that "we are clearly persuaded more by custom and example than by any certain knowledge".
4. Buddha deemed speculation fruitless because we can only learn from living our lives
LH
ReplyDelete1. Socrates decided a conversation was a success if somebody realized how little they actually knew
3. Socrates said that his inner voice told him to question everything, I think he was speaking of his concience
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1. A successful conversation for Socrates was one in which people realized how little they actually know about something. A conversation in which someone started to question and think differently about the assumptions they had confidently believed in their whole life was what Socrates considered successful. Wisdom to Socrates meant not knowing much, but understanding the limits of what we can know and trying to understand the true nature our existence. It meant to continually ask questions and not settle for what someone told us to think.
3. Socrates said his inner voice told him to question everything and it also warned him against doing certain things. I think the inner voice he was describing was his intuition.