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Questions March 2

Berkeley, Leibniz, Hume, & Rousseau-LH 15-18, FL 17-18, HWT 18-19; and report presentations (See  schedule under NEXT. Reporters, post your summaries and discussion questions before class in the comments space below, OR request an author invitation

NOTE to those early reporters who've contacted me in a panic, requesting more time, I remind you: I've been saying in class for at least two weeks that anyone who didn't want to risk being volunteered to go first should indicate a different topic preference. Those who did were accommodated. 


Do your best. If you decide later that you omitted something crucial, you can share that in a post. I'm not looking for an exhaustive account of your topic, just a brief discussion of some aspect of it. Do a bit of research, and tell us about it. And don't panic.)

  • What can Pope (or Leibniz) possibly mean by "whatever is, is right"? Does any reasonable and sane person really believe that nothing is ever wrong?
  • Does the "Principle of Sufficient Reason" really state or imply that nothing is wrong? 
  • Is it possible to believe that all's for the best, or that ours is the best of all possible worlds? 
  • Do natural events that kill or maim innocent victims challenge your faith in divine providene?
  • What did Voltaire mean by "cultivating our garden"? (See SoL...)
 


  • What do you think of Deism?
  • If the human eye was intelligently designed, why do so many of us need glasses?
  • Have you ever personally experienced the violation of a law of nature? Do we speak too casually of "miracles"?
  • Was Rousseau right about freedom and "chains"? Can we break the chains of social obligation merely by coming to understand that they're in our best ("general") interest?
  • Did Samuel Johnson "refute" Berkeley's Idealism?
  • What do you think of Berkeley's slogan "Esse est Percipi"? 

 

FL
  • What do you think of the "slavery theme park"? 119
  • What do you think of Robert Love Taylor? 120
  • Are you surprised that Birth of a Nation was the first movie shown at the White House?
  • Was Wilbur Cash right about "gaudy" southern fantasy-worlds? 121
  • What do you think of The New Theology (123) and the modernists' reconciliation of science and scripture? (126) 
  • Were you taught about the Scopes Trial before coming to college? 126-

HWT
  • Were Montaigne and Socrates good role-models for learning "how to die"? 203
  • Is it a mistake to think of the soul or self as "uniform, indissoluble, immortal, divine"? 
  • Is "heart-mind" a better concept than "mind-body"? 204
  • Was Aristotle's concept of soul better than Plato's and Descartes's? 204-5
  • Do you ever "catch yourself without a perception"? 204
  • Is it wrong to adopt the religion of your community without questioning it? 207
  • Can we really author our own lives? Do Americans underrate "contingency" and show too little humility? 208
  • Is there a breakdown of equilibrium between intimacy and integrity in the west? 214
  • Do you "belong in your hometown"? 215
Podcasts: 
Voltaire's Candide
In Our Time-Melvyn Bragg and his guests discuss Voltaire's novel Candide. First published in 1759, the novel follows the adventures of a young man, Candide, and his mentor, the philosopher Pangloss. Candide was written in the aftermath of a major earthquake in Lisbon and the outbreak of the Seven Years' War, events which caused such human suffering that they shook many people's faith in a benevolent God. Voltaire's masterpiece piles ridicule on Optimism, the fashionable philosophical belief that such disasters are part of God's plan for humanity - that 'all is for the best in this best of all possible worlds'. Often uproariously funny, the novel is a biting satire whose other targets include bad literature, extremist religion and the vanity of kings and politicians. It captivated contemporary readers and has proved one of French literature's most enduring classics.

The Social Contract
In Our Time-Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the Social Contract and ask a foundational question of political philosophy – by what authority does a government govern? “Man was born free and he is everywhere in chains”. So begins Jean Jacques Rousseau’s great work on the Social Contract. Rousseau was trying to understand why a man would give up his natural freedoms and bind himself to the rule of a prince or a government. But the idea of the social contract - that political authority is held through a contract with those to be ruled - began before Rousseau with the work of John Locke, Hugo Grotius and even Plato. We explore how an idea that burgeoned among the 17th century upheavals of the English civil war and then withered in the face of modern capitalist society still influences our attitude to government today.

George Berkeley
In Our Time-Melvyn Bragg and his guests discuss the work of George Berkeley, an Anglican bishop who was one of the most important philosophers of the eighteenth century. Bishop Berkeley believed that objects only truly exist in the mind of somebody who perceives them - an idea he called immaterialism. His interests and writing ranged widely, from the science of optics to religion and the medicinal benefits of tar water. His work on the nature of perception was a spur to many later thinkers, including David Hume and Immanuel Kant. The clarity of Berkeley's writing, and his ability to pose a profound problem in an easily understood form, has made him one of the most admired early modern thinkers.

David Hume
In Our Time-Melvyn Bragg and his guests discuss the work of the philosopher David Hume. A key figure in the Scottish Enlightenment of the eighteenth century, Hume was an empiricist who believed that humans can only have knowledge of things they have themselves experienced. Hume made a number of significant contributions to philosophy. He saw human nature as a manifestation of the natural world, rather than something above and beyond it. He gave a sceptical account of religion, which caused many to suspect him of atheism. He was also the author of a bestselling History of England. His works, beginning in 1740 with A Treatise of Human Nature, have influenced thinkers from Adam Smith to Immanuel Kant and Charles Darwin, and today he is regarded by some scholars as the most important philosopher ever to write in English.With:Peter MillicanProfessor of Philosophy at the University of OxfordHelen BeebeeProfessor of Philosophy at the University of BirminghamJames HarrisSenior Lecturer in Philosophy at the University of St Andrews

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  1. Section 7
    Is it possible to believe that all's for the best, or that ours is the best of all possible worlds?
    It is possible for a person to believe this, but I don't think anyone can deny that there are possibly better worlds out there. I think when people say all is for the best, it's more of a thing to say in comforting someone going through a hard time. such is the human condition, when something negative happens in our life we can't do much but get up and recover. When a loved one passes away I don't think it's for the best, but at the same time I have to hope that it is so that they're safe at rest or in a better place.

    Do natural events that kill or maim innocent victims challenge your faith in divine providence?
    Yes, most definitely, this is why I'm not really a religious person. I could never worship or devote my life to a God that allows such cruelty to exist in our world.

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    1. I see where you are coming from. Why would we believe in a god that harms his people? but have you ever thought that it may be the ideal situation for that person whether we see the reason or not? we can not see what gods reasons are

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  2. Marim Sameer
    Section 7
    Discussion answer/ weekly essay
    Do natural events that kill or maim innocent victims challenge your faith in divine providene?
    They used to challenge my faith. I would not understand why a god that claims to love all of his children would harm them in any way. I could not believe that people would worship a god that could turn on them. However, those thoughts slowly went away when I realized that god does things for a reason and us as humans are not able to grasp the potential reason no matter how much we would think about it. God sees things that we do noy. I do believe he does this for the best. Not ever thing is easy. However, things have to be done for a bigger reason. I want to relate this to my previous post when I mentioned the dad and son (brief part of the story: son who treated his father very well and always took care of home. Later, that son found a woman he wanted to be his wife. Just before the wedding god took the son’s life. The father questioned why god would do such an act. The son has been nothing but good and pure on this earth. God then appeared to the father in the dream saying that he took his son’s life because his wife was going to corrupt him and turn him against his father.) for us humans it would be easier to question why god would do such a horrific thing to a good young man. This story points out that we cannot. compare to god when it comes to trying to find the reason for every bad event.

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    1. If we're not capable of seeing the perfection of a divine order, how are we capable of seeing that there must be one? And as for the story: if an omniscient and omnipotent god knows the wife will corrupt the son, why create THAT wife and THAT son in the first place? How is that conceivably the "best" world such a being could engineer? How, that is, can a rational person believe it except as a matter of blind faith? And if we concede our blindness, isn't agnosticism a more appropriate response?

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    2. Faith is the assumption that something does exist. Agnosticism is assumption that it does not.

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    3. I find it interesting that so many people are against the idea of a God because of the depravity we experience in the world. Why is it God's responsibility to make everything perfect all of the time? Supposing for a moment that God is real, why does he owe you or any person perfection? Further, wouldn't the imperfection be a greater example of humans actually exercising free will? Actions and choices have consequences and I don't think it's up to a God to hold everyone's hand and make everything perfect. That is the removal of free will, wouldn't you think?

      Chris Hall Section 7

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    4. Agnosticism is actually the view that we possess insufficient evidence to render a rational judgement as to whether a putative object exists. In the religious sphere it means neutrality and non-commitment as to whether there a supernatural creator exists. Atheism is the affirmative belief that such a being does not exist. The agnostic says "I don't know, and neither do you." The atheist says "I don't believe..." The theist says "I do."

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    5. "Why is it God's responsibility to make everything perfect all of the time?" In the Judeo-Christian tradition, that "responsibiliity" is implicit in the definition of omnipotence, omniscience, and omni-benevolence. Recall "Epicurus's old questions" that David Hume summarized: "Is he (God) willing to prevent evil, but not able? then he is impotent. Is he able, but not willing? then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? then whence evil?”

      If such a god exists, as we've noted, human free will is highly dubious.

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  4. Section 7.

    Deism isn't entirely out of pocket for me. I can understand its creation. Although I disagree with "does not interfere with creation" due to biblical history, if I wasn't religious I would probably be a Deist. I like reason and thought, and determining that an almighty being exist using reason seems to align with my thought.
    I haven't personally experience a "miracle" and I agree that we use "miracle" too much. Although have been instances in history where the odds are defied, it's simply that -- a defiance of odds, and that happens now and then. I try to reserve "miracle" for divine intervention, as recorded in the Bible.
    I believe that you should question your religion when the time is right. My father always said that someone finds their religion when they move out because they are no longer forced/sheltered/living around the x religion household. You should be sure to have an idea of why you believe what you do. Blindly following a cause is something I try to steer away from, be it politics, religion, or anything else.

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    1. "if I wasn't religious I would probably be a Deist" -- Deists think of themselves as religious. But that's a curious statement, "if I wasn't religious..." It sounds a lot like "If I hadn't already closed my mind..." Are you comfortable with that perception of your statement? If not, under what conditions would you think about becoming a Deist? Are you saying that adopting a particular religious belief somehow excuses you from thinking about alternatives?

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  5. Section 8

    What do you think of Berkeley's slogan "Esse est Percipi"?

    While reading on Berkeley's view of the world, I found myself being in disagreement with most of his view of the world. I think Berkeley's philosophy is a prime example of overcomplicating things. He said he believed that everything continues to exist because God is always perceiving everything. I am a Christian so I believe God is omnipotent and thus I do believe that God knows everything that takes place in this world and is aware of every event that happens. I also believe that God created the world in a very real way. He created real trees, rivers, animals, etc...They are alive and breathing. They are not simply ideas. I believe material and these things do actually exist. Like the stone mentioned in the text, I believe that actually exist and cause real pain or discomfort if one were to smash their foot against it. I don't think the pain is just and idea or the stone is just an idea, but real things that are experienced.

    What do you think of the "slavery theme park"? 119

    I think the Black America slavery theme park that was created in Brooklyn is simply disgusting. The idea that slavery was this pleasant experience for African-Americans is a narrative that is completely false. These people were enslaved. Their humanity was taken from them. They were treated as animals. It was not a pleasant experience. Every time I learn more and more about different things that have taken place in the United States as it pertains to the treatment of African Americans I am appalled. As a black man, it is difficult to know that the country you reside has treated individuals that share your complexion in such inhumane ways. I also think that this attitude that southerners had during the created of this park, still exist today in 2021. There are many southerners who take so much pride in the history of the south and who flaunt confederate flags without understanding the real implications of these symbols. These are not symbols of pride and freedom, but oppression. These are symbols of division and supremacy. African-Americans have been treated as caricatures for decades in this country, and in different ways this is still taking place. America needs a radical change of heart, and it starts with learning to love people no matter what they look like, where they come from, or what they believe. We are to respect and love all people. To think that you are better than someone else because of your skin color is frankly a flawed and pitiful way of thinking.

    There is so much work to be done in our nation, and honestly racism will always exist. There are racist people who are convinced that their way of thinking is correct. There are people who are genuinely convinced that a black person has less value than a white person. There are people who are convinced that people of color whether it be Latino, Asian, Indian, etc...are not as valuable as people who are white. This is simply false. These same people will in turn teach younger generations to think African-Americans, Asians, Latinos, etc aren't as valuable as someone who is white which then continues the cycle of racism, hatred, prejudice and white supremacy. All very real things that too many people fail to recognize as real issues that plague our existence.

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    1. Re: Berkeley, I agree with you -- living and breathing are more than just ideas. But Berkeley's point is that our experience of the world is inseparable, in our experience, from our ideas of the world, to the extent that we can draw no practical distinction between them. In part this is just an attempt to avoid the technical problems that arise for Locke and other "representational realists" who say our ideas come from the world, but who can't point to any item of our experience that is a direct apprehension of something that is not already an idea by the time it comes to our awareness. But where you say he's overcomplicating things, he'd say he's undercomplicating them. We realists make things more complicated by insisting on non-ideal causes of experiences we know only ideally.

      But, is it true that we only know ideas immediately? Radical empiricists like William James say it's not true. We directly encounter a world, not just ideas of a world.

      Re: residual racism. I agree with you entirely. It's disgusting, it seems to be ineradicable. But it's better than it was when I was a child. I have to believe we'll all get to the promised land of universal justice and freedom, someday.

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    2. I thought the same when reading about Berkeley. He is overcomplicating the distinction between objects and ideas. But after deciding to read over that chapter again, I began to think of it more as a way to consider our experiences and knowledge in a different way. Observation is not the necessary element for existence of anything. But I do enjoy considering the relationship between appearance and reality.

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  6. Is it wrong to adopt the religion of your community without questioning it? The book makes the statement that it is wrong to not form your own beliefs and that the individual must decide for themselves. I agree with this that you need to think for yourself and not simply follow as everyone else does. However to think that it is wrong that someone is Muslim, Christian or Hindu simply because of their community is not something I subscribe to. If the person is good hearted and charitable why are they ostracized for following in their tradition. I do encourage them to question there beliefs and after that they may even grow a stronger belief in their chosen worship. However, I wont say they're wrong for simply believing in what traditions of their cultures have dictated. If you try to force someone to question a bedrock belief they hold you only serve to antagonize them. It is better for them to develop their questions on their own and ask them when they feel ready to.

    Can we really author our own lives? Do Americans underrate "contingency" and show too little humility? I do believe that to many Americans fail to create a backup plan if their golden designed one fails to flourish. Because life is not designed how your personally see it and can turn out quite differently. Americans lack humility also as they get what they desire and only seem to want more and more without giving thanks for what they already have. As for offering your own life I see it as this. 50% of your life is the choices and effort you put into to make it the way you envision while the other 50% is chance and opportunity and the later can completely destroy everything you do in a heartbeat. So while certain external forces play apart in your overall dream it is still partly up to you to try for what you want and is not an excuse to just never try.

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    1. "If you try to force someone to question a bedrock belief they hold you only serve to antagonize them." -- Which is why so many philosophers in the Socratic tradition have been considered gadflies. It's an occupational hazard. But I think if we waited for people to develop their own questions, we'd be waiting an eternity. I don't think anyone should be "ostracized" for belonging to a tradition, but we should all be challenged to think for ourselves. Sapere aude.

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  7. Kallie Calloway #7

    Is it wrong to adopt the religion of your community without questioning it? 207

    Oooh. Honestly, I LOVE this question. YES! I think it is SO wrong to just adopt ANY religion without questioning it. If you adopt a religion, without questioning it, how true is your faith in it? My favorite version of this was always that the lady on the front pew of your southern baptist church every Sunday who says she has NEVER doubted her God, has less faith than the believer who has walked away from God, questioned, and found their way back to Him. If you adopt a religion without question you aren't truly adopting that religion with good faith, which is the basis of most religion.

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    1. And we all know that Church Lady, don't we? In fact, it seems that most people inherit a religious affiliation without ever asking themselves if it's actually accordant with their own beliefs and experiences. It's the path of least resistance, but it's also the path of least reflection and self-possession.

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  8. Nicholas Sellers
    Section #7
    Rousseau's Social Contract

    Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote a book where he theorized the best way to establish a political community to face the problems of commercial society. This book followed his previous work “Discourse on Inequality,” where he agued that man has two innate impulses: self-preservation, or amour de soi (love of self), and pity.

    At the beginning of the social contract, Rousseau talks about a couple different ways to organize society: natural authority, right of the strongest and slavery. Rousseau rejected the ideas that many people at that time had that rulers should be like parents. He rejected these ideas for reasons that still makes sense today. He said that if rulers are like parents then the ruled will become too dependent on their “parents.” Do you agree with this? Do you think that people become too dependent on their leaders?

    Rousseau’s central idea is that the government only has the right to govern those who “consent to be governed.” This does not seem to be a very farfetched idea now, but when he conceived this book, it was considered a pretty radical position. Rousseau suggests that there should be a “sovereign” that is a collective grouping of all citizens that agree to the “social contract” that exercises legislative power by means of the law. But he also says that states need a government to exercise executive power and carry out day to day business. Under Rousseau’s idea, people get to choose under which laws they are subject to. Not individually but as a whole. Do you agree? Do you think that people should have the full power to decide what are laws and what are not? Is this something that we have today in the United States?

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  9. Everyone seems to have an innate desire to explain the world around them, the seen and unseen. Throughout the readings, it consistently seems as though each philosopher relies on unspoken presuppositions. While it may just be a way to condense the material down into a manageable format, but it would be easier to form an opinion on each philosopher’s path and what I think about it if I had a better understanding of their core beliefs.
    On its own deism gives people a way to explain the intricacies of the world and universe without having to completely commit to actually believing in God. One example of deism is the Christian religion. Preachers will tell everyone, look around there is evidence of what God has done all around us, in nature. But that presupposes a higher being. The idea is the same when discussing intelligent design. “If the human eye was intelligently designed, why do so many of us need glasses?” This question implies that intelligent design must be perfect design. That is illogical. Think of machines for example, it was designed by someone we do not know and have not seen, but it was intelligently designed by someone with the knowledge and skill to do it. That does not mean that it will work perfectly 100% of the time. An eye cannot be intelligently designed because it doesn’t work perfectly? To me this is a poor example attempting to discredit intelligent design.
    Rousseau is my least favorite philosopher, and though he is widely known and loved as a renouned thinker, he comes to his conclusions by (attempting) to fix inconsistencies and logical fallacies by trying to convince us two opposites are actually consistent. His entire worldview is based on the supposition that all people are good. As you know from previous posts, he had already lost most there since I do not believe in the goodness of people in their natural state.


    Christopher Hall Section 7

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  10. Renee Hooper
    Section 7

    Dr. Oliver,

    If the human eye was intelligently designed, why do so many of us need glasses?

    This is a particularly challenging question. My answer is very vague, and I would like to have an opportunity in the near future to answer with a scripturally correct detailed explanation. God is perfect and if all humans were created perfect, we would not need God.

    Do natural events that kill or maim innocent victims challenge your faith in divine providence?
    Absolutely not, if anything these tragedies strengthens my Faith. The Book of Revelations in the Bible speaks of natural disasters.

    God does not cause anyone pain. The answer to these questions is rooted in the concept of free will again. God loves all his creations and is not a vindictive God. I do not believe in blindly accepting any religion or forcing religion on an individual or community. Accepting a belief without a solid foundation the Bible says that is the equivalent of building a house on sand.

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    1. "God does not cause anyone pain" - If the universe is superintended by an omnipotent, omniscient, and good god, it's very difficult to grasp the truth of this statement. That's the upshot of the problem of suffering. The only way around it is a rigid faith. Whether one thinks there's virtue in such faith, or mere blindness, is of course a personal judgment.

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  11. Is it possible to believe that all's for the best, or that ours is the best of all possible worlds?
    It is hard to completely agree, or disagree, with this idea in its entirety. Yes, it is possible to believe that all's for the best. That is how I try to live my life. I like to believe that everything happens for a reason. Also I think some people can believe that our world is the best world out there. But it just seems juvenile, in my opinion, to believe that there is not other possible worlds, with some being much better than ours.

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  12. Noah Salcido #8 Midterm Jean-Jacques Rousseau

    Jean-Jacques Rousseau was a political philosopher. He was also a writer that the Catholic church banned for his unconventional religious ideas, yet it was his political ideas that are most influential. In the beginning of his book, The Social Contract, he states “Man was born free, and everywhere he is in chains.” As he lived in the 18th century, the slave trade was brewing across the Atlantic. Rousseau thought humans were inherently good, but civilization turned people into savages. However, there was hope for people to be “free” and still follow the law of the state. Rousseau proposes his solution to General Will. The General Will is what is good for the whole community or state that combines both freedom and obedience. The misconception of the General Will is the Will of All, which is what people want when they are asked. The Will of All is what people want when they do not know what is best for the community. The General Will is what people ought to want when they do not think selfishly. As Rousseau was a political philosopher, he believed the state should legislate laws that keep people in line with the General Will. He also believed if someone could not recognize laws of the General Will and an individual opposed the interest of society, they should be forced to conform. Therefore, the individual would be forced to be free. Rousseau thought someone would be more free if they conformed to the General Will than if they were free to make their individual choices. At the time, such a view on freedom is making someone do what they do not believe is ludicrous for someone who speaks against humidity being in chains.

    Is the General Will freedom or is the General Will another form of enslavement?

    Are humans inherently good and therefore inherently free as well?

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  13. Keylee Crutcher Section 8


    What can Pope (or Leibniz) possibly mean by "whatever is, is right"? Does any reasonable and sane person really believe that nothing is ever wrong?

    I feel like this is part of the ideology that someone who has full faith in religion has to have. 'Why would god allow millions to die in wars fought over him?' Thinking "because theres a reason, it has to have been the best option' is the only way for some people to keep their faith in religion. This ties into natural disasters as well.

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  14. Section 4

    The Principle of Sufficient Reason states that everything must have a reason, cause, or ground. And I guess in a sense that would imply that nothing can be wrong. The word "wrong", I think, is perceived by morals. We are taught was is "right" or "wrong" in this world by ourselves and when we are older, we define those terms ourselves.
    But if something has a purpose or reason I don't believe it can be "wrong", unless its purpose was to be wrong...but then it would be right?


    Regarding the question about "all's for the best", I do believe that everything that happened was suppose to happen, even if it is a bad thing. You got fired, but it opened up another opportunity for another, better job. Just because in the moment it wasn't the best, doesn't mean it didn't help you in the long run and people fail to see the future benefits of bad situations. Also, "all's for the best" is the only way that things could have played out. There was no other way for that event to happen, because it didn't. Sure there are multiple ways many things can go but since all those OTHER possibilities didn't happen, you have to move on. It had a REASON and a PURPOSE. So it wasn't wrong.

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    1. "Everything happens for a reason" purports to offer an explanation for events, not a justification. Bad things happen for reasons too, and things do not always turn out well. Things frequently turn out very badly. Things do not appear to have been fine-tuned to create the best possible world a perfect being could devise.

      Bertrand Russell: "When you come to look into this argument from design, it is a most astonishing thing that people can believe that this world, with all the things that are in it, with all its defects, should be the best that omnipotence and omniscience has been able to produce in millions of years. I really cannot believe it. Do you think that, if you were granted omnipotence and omniscience and millions of years in which to perfect your world, you could produce nothing better than the Ku-Klux-Klan or the Fascists?"

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  15. Do natural events that kill or maim innocent victims challenge your faith in divine providence?

    section 7

    Absolutely not. Natural events that occur within the world are natural for a reason. Tides shifting, wind speeds creating tornadoes, all of that jazz. They happen because that is how the world works. Now, one could ague an opinion of Leibniz that God created the earth and use that to say that God created the natural disasters which, in turn, hurt us. But I do not see it that way, call it faith but God created the world exactly how it should be and natural disasters that occur happen because that is how the earth turns.

    If we want to go back even further we could argue the point Noah's ark and how God sent a flood that covered the earth, evidently killing everything that was not on the ark. But that, to me, is a demonstration of God's power. God created the floods because he saw that the world was corrupt and filled with evil and violence (thanks Adam and Eve).

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  16. Were you taught about the Scopes Trial before coming to college?

    Yes, in my American history classes in high school, I learned about the Scopes trial, and how a teacher was punished because he taught evolution.

    Do you "belong in your hometown"?
    I honestly don't feel like I belong in my hometown. My parents were immigrants and my knowledge growing up about the world was what they learned, and so I have some of the knowledge about a different place where I don't live. I don't feel really connected with the people around me in my hometown, and it's always been like that since I was little. I would think I would belong if I felt a sense of community, but I again I always felt different whenever I tried to get along with people. So no, I don't feel like I belong to my hometown.

    Do natural events that kill or maim innocent victims challenge your faith in divine providene?

    No, Natural events are from the Earth itself not from God's hand at work. For example, the tides are controlled by the moon, the seasons are caused by the Earth's tilt, rotation, and revolution around the sun, and earthquakes are caused by tectonic plates. The results from these events are devastating and we think "How could God allow this to happen?" Sometimes bad things happen to innocent people, in the words of Jesus, "if you pull the weeds, some wheat will uproot." God did not create the Earth with the intentions of sending natural disasters to hurt us, the Earth alone is creating these natural events.

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  17. Ash Warner Section 7
    What do you think of Deism?
    I believe my thoughts on Deism are two separate thoughts. I believe that for the time, the 17th and 18th century, when deism was at its height as an intellectual movement, the movement made sense. We had not discovered evolution or the big bang, but we definitely had the science to explain certain things with more than just “god did it” as an explanation. To believe at the time that there was a higher power but that higher power didn’t interfere with the universe wasn’t that crazy of a thought. But from a modern time standpoint, I feel it’s outdated. I feel like with the modern sciences that has been discovered throughout the last 2 centuries, the need or will to believe in a such higher power is not needed. We have discovered that the universe began with the big bang and we know how we as humans got to the point were at due to millions of years of evolution. I personally do not feel like there is a “higher power” that intervenes with mankind or the idea that there is a higher power at all. I believe the universe just happen to be made and everything just happened by chance. I do not believe there is some kind of super pan for mankind by a higher power because I just do not believe that its possible

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  18. Section 4
    Is it possible to believe that all's for the best, or that ours is the best of all possible worlds?
    I do not believe our version of the world is the best but I do believe that is it the most balanced. It has given us the greatest chance for development.

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  19. What do you think of Deism?
    I personally am a Christian and believe in a higher being but I don’t understand why Deism believes in one that does not interact with their creation. I believe in a caring, humble creator that loves his creation but in Deism they believe in a creator that does not interfere with his creation which makes me question why he would create mankind if he doesn’t interact with us.

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