Andrew: Thank you for meeting with me today. Could I ask you
some questions to help with my philosophy class?
Nigel Warburton: Of course; you came to the right place. I
am just having coffee with Julian Baggini and Kurt Anderson. I am sure they
will be glad to help you too.
Andrew: The first question for my class is, “"Do you
think philosophy can help people learn to respect truth, facts, reality, and
one another, and to reject falsehood, superstition, selfishness, polarization,
partisanship, and mutual hostility based on differences of race, religion,
ethnicity, nationality, belief, etc.?
Nigel Warburton: Good question, that is a lot to ask of any
idea or group of ideas. Human history has been plagued by these problems, since
the beginning of time. Philosophers from the time of Socrates to modern day
philosophers like Peter Singer have addressed the same basic questions because
humanity changes on the surface but human nature stays basically the same.
Kurt Anderson: I don’t think people can overcome being mired
in falsehoods and superstitions unless they are willing to set aside their
dearly held fantasies. The fantasies that people surround themselves with make
them feel good and safe, but they also hold them back. Maybe learning more
about philosophy could help them see new ways of looking at the world. Whether people
can reject falsehoods put aside biases depends on whether they are willing to
be uncomfortable in order to grow. People, especially Americans, are so ties up
in the idea of “Do your own thing, find your own reality, it’s all relative.”
(Anderson 9)
Julian Baggini: That sounds a lot like something I wrote in
my book How the World Thinks, Kurt. I wrote, “Your chances of finding
the right way are improved if you are willing to see the world as it is,
independently of your values. And your chances of making the most of the truths
you discover are higher if you constantly try to bring those truths to bear on
what matters most for human life.” (Baggini 101)
Andrew: How do you think that people would find the right
way, especially when Mr. Anderson thinks that people just stick with their own
fantasy versions of the truth?
Julian Baggini: Even though modern technology is the source
of a lot of falsehoods and a platform for some off the wall ideas to be spread,
it also brings people access to the philosophies and ideas of people all over
the world. If people start to accept that they have something to learn from other
people and cultures, they might let go of some of their biases, over time of
course. Nothing happens instantly.
Andrew: That makes sense. Thanks. The other question I would
like to ask for my class is, “How would you answer William James's "really
vital question for us all: What is this world going to be? What is life
eventually to make of itself?"
Nigel Warburton: I think that the world will be. It will
just be. We students of philosophy will continue to try to understand the world
and our place in it. We will get some things right, whatever right means, and
some things will elude us. Life will just go on without regard to what we think
or do.
Kurt Anderson: I think the world is going people will
continue to live in their own fantasies because most people aren’t smart enough
or don’t care enough to look past their small viewpoints. What ever ridiculous
thing that someone want to believe, you will find an internet group to cheer
you on.
Julian Baggini: Maybe the outlook isn’t quite that dim, Kurt.
People are looking for a sense of belonging. In America, it has been so
ingrained in us to be autonomous that we are, maybe subconsciously looking for others
who agree with us, so we can feel a sense of community. “Greater intimacy or
belonging can be created if the gap between the left-behinds and the prosperous
is narrowed, if local and regional identities can be expressed without excluding
outsiders, if common values can be asserted and shared.” (Baggini 216). The internet
has more than its share of garbage, but it is also a place where ideas can be
shared and people can get that sense of belonging. The world may surprise us
all and life may eventually be better.
Andrew: Thanks for your time. You gave me a lot to think
about. I am sure that will help me in class.
Andersen, Kurt. Fantasyland.
Random House UK, 2018.
Baggini, Julian. How the
World Thinks: a Global History of Philosophy. Granta, 2019.
Warburton, Nigel. A
Little History of Philosophy. Yale University Press, 2012.
Do we want to see the world "independently of [our] values"? Or do we want to see it in an unbiased way, free of distorting prejudice? These are not the same.
ReplyDeleteAndersen doesn't claim that all people do or MUST "just stick with their own fantasy versions..." He's calling out those who do, but it is at least implicit that we can do. We don't have to stay in Fantasyland. Maybe we can learn to use the Internet more constructively, to liberate ourselvs from bondage to unsubstantiated ideas.