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Saturday, September 2, 2023

Questions SEP 5

Posting early this week so you can take Labor Day (Monday) off (if you don't procrastinate)... See you Tuesday. jpo


In CoPhi it's time again for Aristotle. This time last semester, on August 30, that serendipitously coincided with the lead-off slot I'd been asked to fill in the Honors Fall Lecture Series [slideshow]. It also coincided with the kickoff of our Environmental Ethics course's discussion of the Kentucky sage Wendell Berry, so I found myself looking for points of intersection between Aristotle and Wendell--specifically on the subjects of friendship and happiness. Having already noticed some affinity between Aristotle and Socrates, I then also detected an Aristotelian strain in the farmer-poet from Port Royal. That again leaves Plato the odd man out... (continues)

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LHP 2

1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?

2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's?

3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?

4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?

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5. What did Sir Walter Raleigh help invent (other than cigarettes) that contributed to "Fantasyland" as we know it today? Was he a "stupid git," as the Beatles song says?


6. What was western civilization's first great ad campaign? Does advertising and the constant attempt to sell things to people have a negative impact on life in the USA?

7. What did Sir Francis Bacon say about human opinion and superstition? Do you ever attempt to overcome your own confirmation bias?

8. Which early settlers are typically ignored in the mythic American origin story? Also: what about the early "settlers" who were brought here against their wills and enslaved?

9. What had mostly ended in Europe, but not America, by the 1620s, and what did the Puritans think would happen "any minute now"? Why do you think people keep making this mistake?

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10. What is pratyaksa in classic Indian philosophy, and how does the Upanishads say to seek it? 

11. There is widespread belief in India that the practice of yoga can lead to what? Do you think it can?

12. What is metanoetics, in Japanese philosophy?

13. What does ineffable mean?  Is it possible, though paradoxical, to use words to indicate something you can't put into words?

14. Unlike the west, religion in Japan is typically not about what? And what is it about to you?

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  1. 1) The point he was making was that true happiness doesn't come from the little things in life, rather your experiences with life as a whole. Yes, if you live a well off life, you are going to be happier overall compared to someone who isn't as well of as you are.

    2) Plato wanted to think about the abstract and unobtainable where as Aristotle wanted to think about and interact with the real world, rather than being an "arm chair" philosopher. He founded his school as a way of furthering his goals. I am on Aristotle's side as he has a much more praticle view of the world, on that is much more applic

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    1. (hit the post button by accident) ... applicable to today's society.

      3) Your overall wellbeing and happiness/success. By being a good person and helping out society, in relation to the rest of the world, if the rest of the world is better off because of something you did, you benefit from that too. Yes, to some extent. As I continue to live my life, I believe that my actions will continue to increase it.

      4) The reliance on figures of "authority". He was a researcher who was wrong sometimes, he didn't want to become this figure of authority, but he was made one anyway because he was so well liked. No. I value my own opinion so I always try to get multiple perspectives on a story or topic.

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    2. Typo corrections (as I can't edit):

      1) who isn't as well of as you are. -> who isn't as well off as you are.

      2) I am on Aristotle's side as he has a much more praticle view of the world, on that is much more applic -> I am on Aristotle's side as he has a much more practical view of the world, one that is much more applicable...

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  2. 1. Aristotle used a few words to describe the euphoric that we as human beings are so destined to chase. He tries to emphasize that one activity that causes you a momentary serotonin boost does not mean that you are happy overall. He states that a lifestyle of activities that make your brain and body feel good simultaneously is the key to uncovering persistent happiness in your own life, and this statement I absolutely agree with.

    2. The philosophical difference between The School of Athens and Lyceum is that Lyceum did not prioritize a specific subject or demonetize subjects that did not relate to philosophy, as The School of Athens did. If I had to choose a side I would choose the side of Lyceum, this is because I know that I am not subjected to only one topic. I know my brain is capable of harboring all types of knowledge, so why not push that limit?

    3. In the terms of Aristotle eudaimonia means success. This question is quiet similar to my answer ti question one, what success means to one individual can differ from what success means to another; therefore, we can increase our chances of feeling successful by doing things everyday that make or body and minds feel at ease. For example if you cannot rest until you know you completed your 10,000th step for the day that will be apart of your journey of eudaimonia. Personally I do not think I have reached "success" nor do I believe I (or anyone) ever will. I am human so I will have set backs that restart my journey, although this is upsetting it's apart of life and I am okay with that.

    4.Aristotle believed that it is a complete contradiction to philosophical education take everything you hear or see as a fact rather than a possibility. I know that this way of thinking goes against many philosophies, but I always listen to my mother. If I am ever lost and need guidance I can rely on my mother not to tell me exactly what to do but to help me find my own path, and I will allow her to redirect me every time.

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  3. 1.Aristole was trying to express that happiness is linked to successfulness. That it comes from your experiences in the world and the things you do in the world. We should reject the material items as that is false happiness. Whilst I agree mostly with his statement that you should strive to do more in life and have worldly experiences, some material items can bring you a form of happiness. Whilst that may not be something you buy, but maybe something you create or receive from another.

    2. Plato's theories were more in line with what you could not see, like another plain of existence and abstract things/thinking. Aristotle was more in line that the answer was with things we could see and touch, the earth itself and the people in it. Aristotle finds Plato's theories a lazy way of thinking. I am more on Aristotle's side, while I don't entirely think that Plato's thinking is lazy, I do think that there is more for us to see and learn from by what we see in front of us than always looking to another world, despite me myself loving to think of art and abstract meanings I do not think that it should be applied to another world, but try to apply these abstract principles to the world we can see.

    3. Eudaimonia is the word for happiness/success. It is viewed as the end goal. You must help in society and play a part in the worlds never ending cycle. It is believed that good things you do for the world will also be good for you in the end to achieve Eudaimonia. I think that this is true, whilst you do not have to sacrifice your entire being to the world around you I do think it is healthy to help your community and give back, and it provides good for you in the end as well.

    4. Many people saw him as authority, believing any word he said as truth. However this goes against all his teachings, and his identity as a Philosopher, that he could indeed be incorrect and that not everyone had the answers. Despite this, it took many years to break their vision of his authority. I do think that you should think for yourself. It is not wrong to have a leader or someone you look up too but I think it is healthy for everyone to do their own research and think about things more in their own perception.

    5. Walter Raleigh invented an elaborate pseudoempricism to Fantasylands testimonials. This is the concept of believing impression over statistics. This creates a trend where people are believing things spread by the media even if in fact not true. I do think that in terms of insult, he was indeed a stupid git. However the manipulation tactics, were smart. He used people's hopes and desire to make them believe in something more, like gold, and this was a terrible act that does make him despisable.

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    1. 6. Gold was widely pushed in this time, becoming something most people dropped their lives for and risked it all on false promises of becoming rich. Little people in New America actually became rich, and those who did because of their hard work in growing tobacco. I do think that the constant advertising in todays world has a large effect on society, making our youth think they need all of these things to fit in, and our adults struggling to resist the temptation of what may seem like a perfect purchase or investment. It is ultimately a manipulation tactic that lures one in, even if the product you are receiving in the end may be a good one.

      7.Bacon ultimately stated that fantasy trumps fact. In "The Human Understanding", once one person adopts an opinion they want to support it, even if it is wrong. They also want to share it, so many others adopt this false opinion, and once it is wide spread in many peoples' hopes it is hard to disprove it with fact alone, as humans become enraptured in the fantasy of the dream.

      8.Many people fail to talk of Jamestown over the Mayflower. They were people who had a false dream and dropped many of their lives to get it. They also brought along slaves, African Americas who were forced to work for this false dream that started slavery in the New Americas at this time. This is a much uglier story than those of the Mayflower, seeking religious freedom in a new god's land? So it is often ignored even if they were much larger than the settlement of the Puritans

      9.Slowly the belief in biblical end-time prophecies died in England. However not for the Puritans, they believed that it was coming any day now, a apocalypse, God versus Satan in America. I think that they believed anyone that did not share their same values were sinners, and that this was going to happen so that the Americas, god's land, would be saved and only true believers would be taken with God to the new promised world. This is another example of a false fantasy that humans naturally tend to fall into even if they have no proof.

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    2. Hello! I am also a student in this class so I'd like to build off what you said for 1 - 5.
      1. Aristotle indeed emphasized that true happiness, comes from a life of virtue and meaningful experiences rather than the pursuit of material possessions. However, as you pointed out, there can be a balance between appreciating material items and finding happiness in experiences and connections. Some material possessions, particularly those with sentimental value or those that enable creative expression, can enhance one's overall well-being. Aristotle's philosophy encourages us to prioritize the pursuit of virtue and a well-lived life, but it doesn't necessarily require us to reject all material items.
      2. Your perspective aligns with Aristotle's emphasis on the tangible and observable aspects of life. While Plato's philosophical ideas often delved into the abstract and metaphysical realms, Aristotle believed that the best way to understand the world was through empirical observation and studying the world as we perceive it.
      3. Eudaimonia, as Aristotle described it, is indeed the ultimate goal of a virtuous life. It involves contributing to society and living in accordance with one's true potential. The idea that doing good for others can also bring good to oneself is a core aspect of virtue ethics. It encourages individuals to engage in altruistic actions that benefit both themselves and their communities, ultimately leading to a more fulfilling life.
      4. It's important to remember that even though philosophers like Aristotle held authority in their time, they were not infallible, and their teachings were subject to scrutiny and revision. Critical thinking and individual judgment are essential aspects of philosophical inquiry, and Aristotle himself valued the pursuit of knowledge through questioning and reasoning. It's a valuable lesson to not blindly accept any authority's words as absolute truth and to engage in independent thinking and research.
      5. Walter Raleigh's manipulation tactics to create a false impression for personal gain indeed demonstrate the power of propaganda and misinformation. While his tactics may have been clever, they were morally questionable and took advantage of people's hopes and desires. It's a reminder of the importance of critical thinking and skepticism when evaluating information.
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  4. 1. He thought happiness isn't so simple, it is much more complex and can't be reduced to transient moments of joy. True happiness is something experienced over a lifetime.


    2. Plato prefers abstract thinking, Aristotle prefers experiencing the world through his senses, which is quite the opposite of Plato's belief. I'm on Aristotle's side, I think having senses and responding to stimuli is what makes us human. We should experience the world around us in every way that we can, and be fascinated by what is around us.


    3. Eudaimonia is the success of our lives, even after we have passed. We can develop good behavior and use reasoning. I don't think I've achieved it yet. I also haven't heard of this idea until now, so I may have a late start...


    4. He believed we shouldn't always consider the thoughts of authorities to be the one true answer. We should still be able to think for ourselves, to question, and be inspired by their thoughts. Philosophers can be wrong too. Law is a very threatening authority to me, so I feel I have no choice but to follow.

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    1. Aristotle was making the point that short term moments of pleasure do not equate to happiness. He believed that true happiness could only be achieved and truley appreciated in the long term, after one has gained more life experience. I agree with Aristotle, I believe pleasure and joy do not equal happiness. Happiness can only truley be appreciated once one has been faced with adversity and experienced moments of struggle and defeat. In that struggle and defeat we learn about ourselves and gain wisdom from our hardships that can ultimately lead to our eventual happiness and allow us to appreciate it more rather than feeling a short term dopamine boost from the material, or short term moment of pleasure.
    2. The School of Athens implied that Plato's ideologies stemmed from his theory of Forms and that he was more apt to philosophize from an arm chair and think abstractly about the world. Where Aristotle is seen in the painting reaching out to the world in front of him. Aristotle believed that in order to learn more about the world around him, he head to experience the world around him first hand and study it, instead of just thinking abstractly about it. I side with Aristotle because I agree that the best way to learn more about a specific subject is to study and interact with that subject and learn all you can rather than just thinking abstractly about it with no knowledge on the subject itself.
    3. Eudaimonia is essentially Aristotle's idea of happiness that is described more as flourishing and success rather than how we fill. It suggests that happiness is your overall achievement in life. The main things we can do in order to strive to achieve eudaimonia in our lives is to develop the right kind of character by developing good habits and avoid focusing on how we feel but rather become more in tune with our reasoning and focus not on what we want to do but we ought to do. As the text suggests, luck is also involved. A person's upbringing will also determine the habits a person has developed and if they have more virtues or vices. I personally don't believe I have achieved eudaimonia yet.
    4. Truth of authority, in which people believe what an authority figure says to always be truthful and factual was a reliance that went against Aristotle's teaching and approach to philosophy. He believed in research and clear reasoning. I believe there are times I have deferred to authority figures such as my leaders in the Army and even teachers and professors. I believe it's fine to respect figures of authority but we should never take everything anyone says as fact or gospel. We should always do our own research and not be afraid to challenge and debate the views or opinions of authority figures.

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  6. 1. He was stating that it takes more than one happy moment to achieve happiness, happiness is achieved once you have lived a long and fruitful life. I do agree with this.

    2. Plato is more interested in the hypothetical "true reality" whereas Aristotle is more interested in the reality that is right in front of him. I am on Aristotle's side because his ideas seem to be much less exclusive.

    3. Eudaimonia is a state of happiness. You can increase your chances of achieving eudaimonia by living a successful life and building good character within yourself. Only the things that you know of can impact it, sort of like a blissful ignorance. I do not think that I have achieved eudaimonia.

    4. Later philosophers did not question a word he said because everything he said was taken to be true and correct, "truth by authority". An authority that I have deferred to in the past is my teachers. If they say a date or a piece of information that might be tested over, I assume that they are correct.

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    Q1: One moment of bliss doesn't necessarily mean overall happiness, because it could be a few high moments in a lifetime of low points. I agree on that. He also says children can't be happy because they haven't lived a whole life yet. Im 50/50 on this. The life they do live as kids, is usually enjoyable because they haven't made it to the years of realizing all the crappiness in the world, unless its cases where their childhood years are the most traumatizing, but if not, those are usually the most happy, enjoyable times of life.
    Q2: Plato wanted to philosophize the things he couldn't see, like the intellectual world. That's why he is pointing up in the picture, pointing up into the unknown world where everything was seen as "perfect" Aristotle wondered about to physical world and philosophized through experience. He's seen holding his hand out towards the ground in the photo.
    Q3: Eudaimonia is kind of an idea that we can create little moments of bliss for ourselves to stay content, but in general we have our most suitable life planned out and fit for us, and when we have these expectations for what happiness is, and they don't work out, our true core happiness gets messed with. To "Develop the right kind of character" is a way to achieve this. Its only in relation to having a life in society. For me personally, I find this hard in the world today, there is no togetherness in society anymore.
    Q4: Relying on someone else's authority was against the spirit of Aristotle's researches. I'm not really sure if I do. I am religious, but I dont see it as an authority over my life, more than an example of morals and guide to living a better life.

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  8. 1. Aristotle was making the point that simply because one swallow arrives in an area, I believe referring to the migration of birds in the wintertime and return in the summer, does not prove that summer has completely arrived. Equally one warm day does not make it summer either. He was intending to relate that concept to the meaning of happiness for an individual. Meaning that only being happy one day does not mean you have a life full of happiness, thus the goal of an individual must be to continually seek out happiness. I agree only to the extent that one should strive to be as happy/joyful as possible, yet part of that is embracing the suffering everything must endure to be alive thus seeking out happiness too often will result in a negative experience.

    2. Plato’s philosophy is directed towards thinking about the abstract concept of a thing rather than directly observing it directly to understand its true nature. Whilst Aristotle’s philosophy is practically the opposite, he is intrigued by most things physical, and he believes by observing an object is how one can learn about the object’s nature. This is shown by Plato pointing upwards to the world of the Forms; in contrast, Aristotle is reaching out towards the world in front of him. Personally, I am on Aristotle's side because only by making complete observations of objects in our world is how we may advance our civilization. Although, I do believe that we should not completely forget Aristotle’s viewpoint because it can help our imagination (which creates new ideas) and it is somewhat useful on more abstract concepts such as Quantum Mechanics.

    3. Eudaimonia is an objective concept not referring to a specific type of feeling but rather how an individual decides to use their own power of reason to succeed in their lives. To increase your possibilities of achieving Eudaimonia one must develop the right kind of character. Specifically, the type that would allow you to feel the right emotion that would direct you towards acting the proper way. The relationship to developing the right character is between the continuous aging of an individual, in that through time we develop our own character, and how you are raised by your initial environment until maturity. Since as children our neuroplasticity is very high and it is easier to develop good habits then, rather than having to change later in life. I do not think I have achieved it because I hope to always be developing my character because, much like Socrates, I know nothing.

    4. Truth by Authority is completely against Aristotle’s research, because his methods were investigation, research and clear reasoning, thus authority proves nothing on its own. The only individuals I defer to in knowledge are scientists that have proven and spoken/written about the methods they follow to come to certain conclusions, plus are peer reviewed. Only by using the scientific method to obtain real world information and having those results challenged by those scientific peer’s is how results can be unbiased. Of course, there are a great deal of concepts that cannot/shouldn’t be obtained this way such as ethics or politics and many more. In those grey areas I do not have any person or group I completely defer to, so I compile the information from different sources a then make my own decisions on; even then I do not devote much time to the study of such topics. The reason being that my professional focus is on science/engineering, so that is where I will make my contributions and have very little possibility to make a change elsewhere.

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  9. 1.The point he was trying to make when he wrote swallows and summer is that short term happiness doesn't mean you are really happy, you would have had to live a long experienced life to achieve happiness. I disagree because even short term happiness can help lead to long term happiness, no matter your age.

    2. The difference was Aristotle disagreed with Plato's "Theory of Form." Aristotle believed exploring our reality with our senses and examine everything. I am on Aristotle's side because it is a more of an practical way to live in our society.

    3. Eudaimonia is flourishing from pleasant sensation. we can increase our chances of achieving it by Aristotle's words "Develop the right kind of character." Meaning being positive and living a positive lifestyle will lead you to eudaimonia. I feel like i have not achieved it yet because I have not had time to really think what my character should be to achieve my eudaimonia .

    4. The spirit of philosophy is against the spirit or Aristotle research. I refer to my parents or adult figures for authority because they lived long enough to help guide my path to success.

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    1. Aristotle’s analogy was meant to prove his idea that happiness isn’t a feeling that comes and goes, it’s more a state of being that depends on your behavior throughout your entire life. I agree that you can’t say you’re happy just because of a special circumstance; you have to be a consistently good person.

    2. Plato believed in an abstract reality that only philosophers could reach through deep thought, while Aristotle wanted to study the real world around him to search for the meaning of life. I like Aristotle more because his ideas are more pragmatic. While Plato’s theory is certainly intriguing, I just don’t see any way it can be applicable as anything other than a thought experiment.

    3. Eudaimonia is the condition of being happy, not due to indulging in pleasures but reached through having a consistently good character. Our virtues and good luck increase our chances of eudaimonia, but only in relation to other people. Honestly, I don’t believe I have achieved eudaimonia yet, mostly because of Aristotle’s idea that it partially comes from living a long life (which I have not yet).

    4. Relying on the word of authority figures goes against the spirit of Aristotle’s philosophy. I try not to always defer to authorities simply because they are in a position of power, because I think it’s important to think for yourself.

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    1. He was making the point that one small moment of happiness does not make you a happy person. I definitely agree with this as someone who has both suffered with depression and anxiety and been around those that suffer with such things. Being happy in one moment is incredibly possible, and it does not make you a happy person. I am happy when I get to do things I like or see my friends but I do not consider myself a happy person.

    2. Plato, pointing upwards, implies that he would rather stay stationary and look for answers in the existence of a higher power or other things beyond our world. Aristotle reaches out to the world, implying that he looks for answers in our own reality. I am on Aristotle's side. I believe that answers lie in the world around us, we just have to find them.

    3. Eudaimonia is ultimate happiness or success. It is similar to some form of enlightenment, and developing a good character is the way to help achieve it. There is no way I have reached Eudaimonia because the criteria seems to be perfection in death and life, that is definitely not something I have done.

    4. "Truth by Authority" is the reliance that goes against Aristotle's research. It is pretty much blindly following what you are told by an authority figure. I definitely defer to many authority figures, specifically in terms of family and religion. Growing up, if you wanted to get me to believe something you had to be my mom or a preacher on a podium. It is much easier to believe what you are told than to look for answers yourself.

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    1. He was saying that happiness isn't controlled by one thing. It takes many things to make someone happy. I agree and disagree with Aristotle's example about kid's. The smallest things can make children happy in that moment. But it does not guarantee a life of happiness for them.
    2. Aristotles school focused on reaching out to the world rather than just keeping knowledge from others. He wanted to teach anyone that wanted to listen. Plato thought that the only ones that could learn were the people exactly like him. I agree with Aristotle because of him willing to teach anyone instead of just cutting himself off to only philosophers. I would also just enjoy Aristotles university because I feel like it would offer more than Plato's university.
    3. Eudaimonia is reaching success. This reflects your character instead of how happy you are. I think the goal of eudaimonia is to hold yourself accountable instead of going through life just trying to be happy. I think that it is something you try and achieve your whole life and you won't know that you have reached it until the end of your life.
    4. 'Truth by authority' is against Aristotles beliefs. I agree that you should not have to answer to anyone and be able to form your own opinion but also be able to respect others opinion. The authorities I have listened to my whole life are my parents, teachers, and pastors. They have always welcomed my opinions but have helped me as well told me their opinions too.

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  13. 1. I believe the point he was making is that we all need to live life to its fullest potential. setting clear goals and making the best of the cards you've been dealt good or bad.
    2. Plato's view was to focus more on the abstract ideas, also linking in with the spiritual world. While, Aristotle is concerned with worldly reality. I agree with Aristotle view with focusing more on worldly ideas and believing what is right in front of you.
    3. eudaimonia is achieved through living virtuously or "being good". This could be doing something that makes you unhappy, like telling someone the truth even though it doesn't benefit you. Basically saying virtue is moral excellence. I personally do not think that I have achieved eudaimonia I have done think that can be considered morally not good therefore I have room for improvement.
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    1. The point Aristotle was trying to make was that a few moments of pleasure do not create true happiness. I do agree with Aristotle's point of view. I believe there is much more to happiness than just how you are feeling in a particular moment. I believe happiness must come from deeper roots that you establish over time throughout different experiences and learning points in your life. After all, if you are not truly happy, small senses of satisfaction will not fill your needed void of happiness.

    2. The philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle was that Plato believed you could philosophize through your mind and Aristotle believed you should philosophize through your senses. I am on Aristotle's side because I believe it is much more reliant to base your theories on things you can visually know the appearance of and not just in an abstract form.

    3. Eudaimonia is the feeling of overall success. We can increase our chances of achieving it by developing good habits and character. I believe this falls in relation to doing what you no is right and living a healthy balanced lifestyle. Although I feel like I am on the way, I also believe that I have a longer life to live to achieve true eudaimonia.

    4. The term ''Truth by Authority'' is completely against Aristotle's research. Overall, I try to avoid following custom authorities, because I believe it is important to think for yourself and develop your own personal beliefs. With that being said however, most authorities I have come to deem to be true mainly come from my family influences.

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    1. Aristotle was trying to make a point saying the a few moments of pleasure and happiness do not add up to true happiness. Yes, I do agree with Aristotle's point of view. I think that in moments of bliss and happiness it is easy to get blinded by the pleasure and forget all of our problems. I believe that true happiness is much deeper than a happy memory or moment and its more of your overall outlook on life and how every moment of every day impacts you.
    2. The philosophical difference between Aristotle and Plato would be the Aristotle believe that you should philosophize by getting out into the world and using your senses whereas Plato believed that you could philosophize from your chair and that everything you needed to know was in your mind.
    3.Eudaimonia is an overall feeling of contentment and success. We can increase our chances of achieving eudaimonia by living a well-rounded life and creating healthy habits. I do not think that I have officially reached eudaimonia, but I do think I'm on the right track to getting there.
    4. "Truth by Authority" is against Aristotle's research. I agree that you do not have to answer to anyone and should be able to form your own personal thoughts and beliefs. With this being said you also have to be able to respect the beliefs of others even and especially if you do not agree with them.

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  17. 1. Aristotle wanted to make the point that summer, from the example the book given in the book, is not just fulfilled from one warm day. that one warm day does give you happiness, but not forever as the day comes to a end. He was trying to make a point that you can't live off little things to be happy. The joy is temporary. That small amount of joy doesn't make you a joyful person. I do agree with his statement, but I also feel like we have to live off of some small memories of happiness or we will never truly find it.

    2. In the book they explained the "school of Athens" painting. It showed Plato pointing upwards to the world of forms, while Aristotle was pointing outwards towards the world in front of himself. Plato wanted to philosophize from an easy space. He didn't want to put the effort in like Aristotle did. He wanted to learn reality through actually going out and experiencing things. I am highly on Aristotles side in this disagreement. how can you teach people when you haven't experienced anything? your statements would become more trustable.
    3. eudaemonia is more of a success and ultimate happiness in your life. he did not believe that happiness came from small things. it came from the development of your character. I personally don't think I have achieved this. we all are still growing as people so can we really say we have completely achieved this?
    4. Aristotle believed that you "truth of Authority" is not ideal. "truth by Authority" was, in simpler terms,

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    1. 4.Aristotle believed that you "truth of Authority" is not ideal. "truth by Authority" was, in simpler terms, when people believe people must tell the truth because they are in higher authority. He believed it was against the philosophy standards to. We believe what the news puts on the TV because its from a source that is "known to be correct'' when in reality most of it is biased information.

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    LHP 2

    1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?
    He was making the point that a burst of what I will call "joy" for the sake of giving it a word to describe this short-term happiness, does not equate to long-term happiness. I do agree in some sense, but I think this can lead to a more negative line of thought. I do not think the line in the book about children being unable to be happy is valid due to it not being present long-term. Many things I loved as a younger child I still love today, and they still may me very happy. I think this should be thought more of collective happiness, the beginning and the journey of it rather than simply the beginning or end.
    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's?
    For the first part of the question, the painting is referring to the difference of philosophical thoughts between the two. Plato's ideology is about a theoretically perfect world of forms in which everything can be compared to. However, Aristotle's is much more concrete pointing at the world rather. I think of Plato's idea as a way of striving for perfection in everything around us. However, I think I side more with Aristotle's view on the necessity to observe our surroundings, in order to see what we can improve on. This is because it is somewhat assumed that this world of forms is not going to be reached so rather than dwelling on the perfection try to better the things in the world that one can actually see.

    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?
    It is the building idea of long-term happiness. This is built on the Aristotle's idea on human nature which, in the book, is compared to a flower needing water, sunlight, etc. to flourish. Humans are similar, but instead of someone else doing it humans can water and feed themselves. I do not think this is something that one achieves in 18 years like what I have lived. However, I also do no think this is the way we think of happiness in the 21st century. So, I do not really know if I have fully grasp or come to terms with the concept, let alone, have the ability to say I have achieved it.
    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?
    The reliance of authority (Truth by Authority), which was ironic because it was something that Aristotle faced himself. He was so well-revered that anything that he said was assumed to be truth. This led to somewhat of a standstill in philosophical thought, among other categories. I definitely have some authorities I just simply assume are correct often because I do not see any reason for them to lie about it. I know that sometimes people lie without knowing, but it feels as if this happens very rarely. Most things I think through myself after hearing them and see if there is any holes in the statement or idea.

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    1. I think that Aristotle was saying that happiness is fleeting, and true happiness comes from a lifetime of good, rather than just short moments.
    2. Plato was more focused on the mind and Aristotle was more focused on the physical. I agree with Aristotle because I like being able to see what I believe.
    3. Eudaimonia is success. Being a good, moral person, and being good to people, helps to achieve that. I'm not there yet but I would like to think I'm getting there.
    4. "Truth by Authority" goes against Aristotle's research because it causes people to not form their own opinions. I usually have the same opinions as my parents or close friends and don't question them often, though I know I should.

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  20. 1. Aristotle wanted to make the point that happiness is much more than temporary, it's experienced after many years of life and having different experiences. I agree to an extent, I also believe that happiness is much more than little moments of joy, but I don't agree with the opinion that children cannot feel happiness.

    2. The difference that is implied in "The School of Athen" is that Plato is looking towards the sky, showing his Theory of Forms or him wanting a perfect world, However, Aristotle is looking towards the world in front of him. This implies that he wanted to look at the world for itself and not imagine the "perfect form" of something. I think I have the same point of view as Aristotle because I don't want to just think about the concept of something, I want to go out and see/experience it.

    3. Eudaimonia is a term that Aristotle used to describe a feeling that is more than fleeting joy. The word is translated to "flourishing" sometimes and I think that is an accurate description on what it truly means. To achieve eudaimonia you need to take care of yourself and to always have strong moral character to maintain the long-term happiness that is eudaimonia. I do not believe that I have reached this state, simply because I am not putting enough effort to maintain this feeling.

    4. The reliance that is against the spirits of Aristotle's research is the reliance of authority. He didn't believe that you should believe everything an authority figure says because they're an authority figure. I do not have any authorities I defer to because authority figures make me nervous.
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  21. Section 10
    1. True happiness does not come from moments of pleasure. These short moments feel great for the time we experience them, but they are ultimately a small part of our lives. Aristotle thought about the bigger picture of life; he thought that in order for one to be truly happy, they had to experience life first. In a sense, I agree with Aristotle because true happiness is not just the result of a singular moment but rather a combination of them. However, I disagree with Aristotle's view that children cannot be truly happy because they have not "lived enough." I think that true happiness can be experienced no matter the length of your life, just as long as you have lived.
    2. Plato believed in the "Theory of Forms, which implies that in order to truly understand something, we first have to think of the perfect form of it, something beyond this Earth. Aristotle believed that in order to truly understand something, we have to look at examples of it, i.e., things on this Earth. In this case, I agree with Aristotle. We can best understand things by looking at examples of them because we can examine both their past and present, which will hopefully tell us why they are the way that they are.
    3. Eudaimonia is living well or flourishing in life. Aristotle believed that in order to increase our chances of achieving Eudaimonia, we have to "develop the right kind of character." Achieving Eudaimonia is mainly related to how you were raised because principles and the habits we develop tend to stick throughout the rest of your life. I do not think that I have lived long enough to know whether or not I have achieved Eudaimonia. 
    4. Authorities are individuals who possess a lot of knowledge or power. "Truth by authority" went against what Aristotle believed. I often find myself submitting to authority because I view them as better or more knowledgeable than myself, which is why I usually never question them and allow them to make the decisions in situations.

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  22. Arsal Siddiqui - section 10
    LHP
    1. When writing “One swallow doesn’t make a summer” Aristotle's point was to push the idea that short-lived moments of joy do not equate to happiness. As a child, I always assumed that happiness existed in places of joy and entertainment. This includes going to sporting events, concerts, or movies. I think moments of joy are happy moments, but they are just small parts of life that do not include the bigger picture of someone's life. Someone could be happy at a concert, but their life might be full of misfortune, which would make them an overall unhappy person.
    2. The difference between Plato and Aristotle was that Plato believed in a world of forums where you had to think of the perfect object to really understand objects in the real world, but Aristotle challenged this idea by taking the other side. Aristotle said that to really understand objects, you had to physically look at the objects in the real world. I agree with Aristotle’s idea on this. As much as we can believe or think of these perfect objects, it is impossible to fully understand an object without looking at a real-world example.
    3. Eudaimonia is a Greek word that is defined as flourishing or success. To achieve eudaimonia we must succeed in life. We can increase our chances of achieving this success or flourishment by being a good person and making correct decisions that will lead to the betterment of our lives. This means that as a person, you must work hard to do things that will fulfill you in this life. I do not think I have achieved eudaimonia. I think fulfilling this will take the rest of my life, and just like Aristotle said maybe even my afterlife.
    4. The complete trust in Aristotle goes against the whole premise of philosophy. Instead of freethinking, many people just take Aristotle’s words as law and never question him. I do have multiple authorities that I defer to, but I always make sure to understand my options. I like to question my world before making decisions or trusting others.

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  23. LHP #11
    1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?
    The point that Aristotle was making is that a few moments of joy does not equal to happiness overall. He thought that children could not be happy because they are still young and not have lived their full life yet. In a way, I do agree with his point because as you live life you experience many different things that make you happy and one might bring more joy than the other but you just haven't realized it until you have done it. A longer life makes you able to find what truly brings you happiness.
    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's?
    In the painting The School of Athens, Plato is pointing upwards to the world while Aristotle is reaching out towards the world. Plato thought that the people who would have the answers are those who are likeminded as him and that you can philosophize with abstract thinking. Aristotle believed that we should examine the world around us and what we experience. I agree with Aristotle because in my opinion it does make more sense to understand a topic or subject is to interact with it.
    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?
    Eudaimonia is the state of success or happiness because of good character and living righteous. Increasing our chances of achieving it is by flouring those good practices. I don't think I have fully achieved eudaimonia frankly because there is yet more life to live and experience.
    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?
    "Truth by Authority" is the reliance that is completely against Aristotle's research. There are authorities that I defer to such as much family and I think the reasoning for that is because I have so much trust in them and their opinion and they are always there to help me.

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  24. section 10 LHP 2

    1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?
    Aristotle makes a claim that happiness rather than being a collection of joyful experiences or any one moment, but instead a collection of a person's success. He claimed that with this thought process children weren't happy because they do not yet have enough time behind them to be truly happy. I do not agree with Aristotle I believe that instead of measuring a life off success alone is not all you need to be happy.
    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's?
    The difference illustrated between the two schools of thought is shown as Plato is looking up towards the sky/heavens whereas Aristotle is looking at the world. This is meant to represent their differing thoughts. Aristotle believed that you should stay in the world and learn all you can from it whereas Plato was more interested with contemplating perfection in another realm.
    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?
    Eudaimonia is a state of success or happiness. To increase chances of achieving Eudaimonia it is best to live a life with good character. I have not yet reached that state as i am too young but i know i will reach it eventually.
    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?
    Relying solely on authority and trusting wholeheartedly that it cannot be wrong. I do not have an authority that I trust one hundred percent to be right as that would be irresponsible given that we are all human.

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  25. I agree with the theory in the metaphor suggesting if we see a swallow in one moment in time then we can’t automatically assume it is summer. A lot more evidence needs to be collected before you empirically understand it is summer. In a more philosophical way of thinking you need to have lots of experiences with varying outcomes before you can determine your definition of happiness. I disagree with him on children’s ability to feel happiness. I just think they have different definitions. One could argue we are happier as children. Depending on personal experience all of our needs are met without any responsibly for us. If we innocently follow interests that attract us without the responsibilities of the world as a youth, and if we’re guided and encouraged by our parents to prevent potential wrong choices, then we have a pretty good chance at figuring those definitions out faster. Or maybe I’m just bias because I have some great memories of happiness as a child.
    Plato’s suggested since no two things are the same you have to focus on the form of something to understand it. Aristotle suggested to understand something you must look at many examples. I don’t think either are wrong, it just depends on what you’re trying to understand. The first chapter of the book uses a perfect circle as the example and the second uses happiness. Sorta apples and oranges. Both fruit, but in different containers in the produce section. The form of happiness is subjective to the person, you just have to try different things to figure out what you like. If you’re unhappy, do different things. The popular Albert Einstein classroom poster claiming, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” And conversely the ole saying, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
    The book gives you 3 words to think about describing eudaemonia; ‘happiness’, ‘flourishing’, and ‘success’. My interpretation of the vibe is the feeling we get when we realize the more we fine tune our schedule that is our life, more things fall into place and we have less adversity. The more we try new things to replace the parts of the schedule not bringing happiness the more experiences we have. If the new thing isn’t working we have to try a new new thing, not go back to the old one. “Dealing with it” is a gatekeeper to happiness. I don’t believe I’ve achieved this at all, but I do feel on the right path. Time and patience and integrity are all important factors.
    “‘Truth by authority’ - believing something must be true because an important figure said it is.”(Warburton, 14) Just because someone says something, doesn’t make it true. Nullius in verba. There is definitely a scale of ethos though and I believe there are safe institutions in existence offering a soft nudge in the right direction. I don’t read every book on the New York Times best seller list. And I don’t choose books to read just from that list, but if I’m interested in something and it says “New York Times Best Seller” or best selling author I figure it has some credibility to me. All you can do is go to the library or bookstore and open it and read it before making up your own mind and investing your time. In my experience this behavior leads to mostly good finds, so why should I stop doing it? Just because I couldn’t get interested in The Looming Tower doesn’t mean I should forget about positive experiences I had reading The End Of The World Is Just Beginning or Guns, Germs, and Steel or The Jungle or countless others.

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  26. #10
    1. He made the statement that a small moment of happiness doesn't make you a happy person. It isn't something that's there and then isn't there. I disagree with this, because those short bursts of happiness can turn into genuine happiness

    2. Plato believed in finding truth in the more "abstract" thoughts and ideas in life, things we could physically interact with, whereas Aristotle believed in and was wanting to understand the physical world around him. I agree with Aristotle because you can't really try to grasp information and ideas like Plato until you fully understand rhe world around you.

    3. Eudaimonia is the idea of building/obtaining long term happiness. I feel like this idea of happiness is obtained through experiencing life, and it would be virtually impossible to do at my current age and experience of the world

    4. Authorities are people who possess lots of power/knowledge, and this was contradictory to what Aristotle believed. I try to go against this, to an extent, but there are plenty of times where I end up following orders from something else
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  27. 1. The point Aristotle making is that a few happy times aren't true happiness. I agree because you can have a few moments in your life that are good, but that doesn't mean you necessarily have a good life. You could also have a good childhood yet not be happy as an adult.
    2. The School of Athens implies that Plato thought philosophy was from thinking whereas Aristotle thought you learned from experience as well. I am more on Aristotle's side in this matter.
    3. Eudaimonia is a state of true and lasting happiness. We can increase our chances of it by building a good character and feel the correct emotions at the right time, in relation to life in a society. I do not think I gave achieved it yet because I am still young and have not experienced much yet or learned how to fully control my emotions at all times.
    4. Relying on someone else's authority was against the spirit of Aristotle's research. There are no authorities I always defer to, but some, such as my parents, I often rely on and follow what they tell me. However, there are times I don't listen and decide to go my own way.

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  28. #10
    1. Aristotle was trying to say that joy and happiness are not the same. The little things that bring you pleasure are not the same thing as true happiness. Happiness was something that happened over the course of your life, you obtain this by being a good and successful person. I do agree with Aristotle in a sense that happiness is something that happens in your life, but I do believe those small moments of joy do add to your happiness.

    2. The philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle that is implied in the image, The School of Athens was that Aristotle wanted to see the real things in person and wanted to explore and research everything. Plato was the opposite he believed that abstract thinking would help you find the answers and you could not trust what you see as reality. I am on Aristotle's side because I believe that you can only fully understand something if you experience it and see it for yourself.

    3. Eudaimonia is the success you have in life. We can increase the chances of achieving it by being morally right and also having a positive affects on the people around you. I do not believe I have a achieved this yet in life.

    4. The reliance, "trust by authority," goes completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research because he thought you should never believe in something due to someone you trust telling you it. I think my mom used to be an authority I deferred too because I had blind trust in her but as I grew up I began to think for myself and question things more.

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  29. Section 11

    1. He was trying to say that moments of joy are not considered true happiness. Happiness is something that was achieved by taking time to actually achieve it. I agree with him because you have those moments but they do not last

    2. The difference between both Plato and Aristotle was that Aristotle wanted to see the best in people he wanted them to explore that side of them so they know what they need to do in order to achieve happiness. Plato was the opposite which in order to get what you want you have to questions everything that was around you and how you should not trust everything you see. I think Aristotle is right in this situation because you actually need to go in-depth in order to get what you want.

    3. Eudaimonia is one of the happiness of success. We can achieve it more by trying our best and being positive in every situation. I am still on my way to achieving this.

    4. The Reliance on trust in authority is against Aristotle’s research due to he believes in not trusting anyone just because someone is telling you that you can not do it. People in my family have had that same effect on me. But then I asked myself do they knew exactly what I was good at and what I was not.

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  30. #13
    1. Aristotle was saying that the small enjoyable actions that happen in life is not true happiness, but true happiness is obtained over the course of life as a whole, I do agree with Aristotle in that sense but i also believe the small things can play a large factor
    2. Plato was an abstract thinker and would think of the unobtainable while Aristotle was more focused on the obtainable and being able to have a hands on approach. I am on Aristotle's side due to the fact that it is more applicable in todays time.
    3. It is the feeling of success/happiness. you can increase this feeling by being an overall good person to society. I feel as if i have not reached this yet but i also feel as if this is something that can take an incredibly long time to achieve.
    4. Relying on another's authority was completely against aristotle's spirit of research. Aristotle believed in making your own decisions with no other influence. My parents were an authority i deferred to because as a kid whatever they say is basically law but as I grew I realized that I can think and act for myself.

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  31. #13
    1. When writing about swallow and summers, Aristotle said it takes more than one swallow to prove that summer has arrived. Aristotle used this thinking to refer to happiness too. He believe that happiness is not a short term thing, and is not determined through a few moments of joy.
    2. Plato and Socrates believed we could only see a reflection of true reality that could only be reached through abstract philosophy. Aristotle would reject this theory and believed the best way to understand something was to physically study it. I am more in favor of Aristotle's perspective.
    3. Eudaimonia is the a way to measure one's success in life through happiness. We can increase our Eudaimonia by developing a right king of character and good patterns. I do not feel like I have reached this yet but I believe I can eventually achieve this.
    4. Aristotle believed that taking everything someone in power says as fact goes against his philosophy. When I was younger I've definitely taken much of what my parents said as fact but I've grown to move past this as I've gotten older.

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  32. 1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?
    His point was that one moment of joy or pleasure was not happiness, his saying was that happiness is something you try to achieve, something you work for. I agree with him, because one small moment isn't your whole life. You can experience joy but not be fully happy with your life or time.

    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's?
    The difference between Plato and Aristotle were Plato was more interested in the world that he was not in, the perfect world that could only be imagined, while Aristotle was more interested in the physical world the one he was in. I agree with Aristotle because I'm more worried about where I am and what's happening to me real time.


    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?
    Eudaimonia is translated as ‘flourishing’ or ‘success’ rather than ‘happiness’. It means you don't need joy to be happy you need success to be proud of yourself. We can increase our chances of achieving it by working towards a goal, or to grasp your success. I have not achieved it yet, I'm still working towards my goal job and my goal self.

    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?
    Relying on another authority was completely against Aristotles research, since it could be tested by that one persons self. To fully trust someone was also against philosophy since the whole meaning of philosophy was to question everything. I do not have any figures I look towards, just because no one really can be their true selves on media and I much rather figure out something on my own.

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  33. LHP 2

    1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?

    Aristotle basically explained that happiness isn’t the small things, but ones entire life. I agree with this in a sense, as I believe the small things as well as the big things make up the bigger picture. But in the end, your entire life will depict your happiness. The small things aren’t happiness, the actions you take throughout your entire life will grant you true happiness.

    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's?

    Aristotle focused more on the physical world and tried to learn more about that, while Plato focused more on “abstract” things such as heaven or other transcendent things. More on Aristotles side here as it makes more sense with todays world and I’m not very religious and more scientific.

    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?

    Success and happiness throughout your entire life. What good things you contribute to society. It isn’t necessarily about how you feel, but you should feel accomplished/happy if you have achieved happiness/success in life. Always try to be the best version of yourself and always try to stay on track towards your best life. I don’t not think I am in a place to say whether I have achieved this or not. So I guess not we I am too early in life to tell.

    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?

    He states to never rely on the authority of others, to be your own self and make your own choices. I deferred to my parents authority for example as a child. I did this of course because they provided me with a stable living.

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  34. Section 11

    LHP 2
    1. The point Aristotle was trying to make was that seeing or doing something once does not mean that change has occurred. To elaborate, going to the gym for a day or a week does not mean that you have developed a workout routine/ schedule.

    2. Plato believed in thinking highly or above our physical world/ dimension, whereas Aristotle believed that true understanding came from the physical world and your interactions with it. I chose to side with Aristotle only because in today's world I feel that there is a lot that can be fondled and deeply inspected such things where not accessible to the everyday person back when these concepts where pondered.

    3. Eudaimonia is 'success' or ' flourishing.' To increase your chances of achieving it you need to develop the right kind of character, in relation to the way you were brought up as Aristotle put it. I believe I have achieved my Eudaimonia in the since of I have control over my character, but I would not say I am finished.

    4. The 'truth by authority' goes against Aristotle's teachings because that is the act of believing anything a figure of authority may say, however correct or incorrect it may be. I do not look into people's words of opinion much; I focus more on facts about a subject rather than how I or someone else may feel about it. Ever since I was a kid, I was always told to never trust what I hear from others on a situation neither of us have witnessed.

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  35. 1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree? He is saying that just a brief moments of joy is not the same thing as true happiness. Happiness can only be experienced through time. I agree with what he is saying with this.

    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's? The philosophical difference is in the school itself. Aristotle wanted to have the things he was thinking about right in front of him she he could examine and learn about them. Plato on the other hand had the philosophy to not believe everything that you see right in front of you. He believed in complex thinking, or thinking outside of the box.

    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it? Eudaimonia is the success that someone has throughout their life based on the things they have done and the people they have impacted. People can achieve this by having good morals. If you go about life with good morals, than the success will take care of itself.

    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not? The reliance on automatic trust in authority. He believes you shouldn't just trust what someone says just because they are in a position of authority. I try not to defer to any authority and keep an open mind about certain things. #11

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  36. #13
    1.) Aristotle's point when writing Of Swallow and Summer was that it takes more than one instance to ensure that a situations occurrence is true.
    2.) Plato and Aristotle had different perspectives when it came to viewing this world. Aristotle preferred and engaged with physical objects. On the other hand, Plato saw things on a more spi

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  37. Ciara Rush Section #13September 5, 2023 at 12:17 PM

    1. The point that Aristotle was trying to make is that you cannot expect yourself to fully enter a time or place in your life without fully experiencing it first. You cannot feel the entire beauty of an entire summer through one warm day. I agree with this, because I believe it takes time to concept true happiness.

    2. The difference between Plato and Aristotle's view on The School of Athens is that Plato believed that you can just visualize happiness and experiences, and they will come to you. Aristotle, on the other hand, believed that you had to experience life to bring you happiness and understanding. I agree with Aristotle.

    3. Eudaimonia means flourishing rather than happiness. This means that you have to nurture yourself similar to a plant to achieve it. It is not the same as a blissful or happy moment. I believe we can achieve this by learning and growing throughout our lives and forming positive relationships and interactions with one another, creating success for ourselves.

    4. The immediate and unquestioning reliance on authority. He believed you should not automatically trust something, just because it came from someone with authority. Always question authority to gain more knowledge.

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  38. #13 ( I accidentally posted an incomplete discussion post.)

    1.) Aristotle's point when writing Of Swallow and Summer was that it takes more than one instance to ensure that a situations occurrence is true.
    2.) Plato and Aristotle had different perspectives when it came to viewing this world. Aristotle preferred and engaged with physical objects. On the other hand, Plato's perspective expanded beyond what the eyes could see. He preferred thinking about more complex ideas.
    3.) Eudaimonia refers to one's success and impact on the world throughout their life. To achieve it one needs to live by good morals. I would like to think that I have lived a partial life of Eudaimonia and expect many more years of it.
    4.) Trusting authority all of the time and never questioning it is an idea that Aristotle would never agree with. Growing up, I always chose to adhere to any authority because of their position of power. Now that I am older and more knowledgeable I can understand that people with positions of power are still human, and can still make mistakes.

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  39. section 13

    1. Aristotle was saying that to truly understand the magnitude and depth of importance that a concept, emotion, or thing has, you must experience or do it more than once. I completely agree with this, as it follows the same thinking as you have to experience the opposite to understand the greatness of what is infront of you.

    2. Aristotle's perception of philosophy was physical perception, were as plato was more focused on a realm of complexity beyond physical. It was like you example with the perfect backscratcher

    3. eudaimonia is the success and impact one's life has on the world. What they accomplished. I have not achieved the level of eudaimonia I want, but I understand that, no matter what, everyone has made an impact, whether they percieve that or not.

    4. reliance of authority. This concept is somewhat necessary in a democracy, though everyone is a free thinker, and to have your views defined by who you vote for or who rules you is not good. One should develop their own views and vote people to represent these views for them in a higher court of law.

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  40. #13
    LPH 2
    1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?
    His point was that happiness is derived from experiences, the things you accomplish, rather than valuables and inconsequential things. I agree with this wholly as good memories provide happiness that lasts forever while the collection of things(every day objects) only provide momentary bliss.

    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's?
    Plato focused on more “spiritual things” things beyond our visible plain of understanding. While aristotle focused on more tangible things, like the earth and people. I stand more on the side of Aristotle, as it is physical visible and provable.

    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?
    Eudaimonia means the feeling of success by reaching the goal you strived for. We can improve our chances of achieving it by working to help our environment and the people around us. I think that we can never fully achieve it as it should be a life-long endeavor.

    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?
    The complete trust of any one person’s thoughts or opinions. I think that there are authorities that typically we can trust but that doesn’t mean we can’t question the ideas and maybe even develop our own version of it. None the less, I think that we learn by initially trusting other then eventually developing out of those ideas and into begin to formulate our own perceptions.

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  41. LPH 2
    Section #10
    Racheal Clark
    1.What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree? - The point he was making in my opinion is happiness takes time or even a lifetime to discover. I don't believe in anything as true happiness, but instead, the little things. That anything can make you happy but truly happy is an empty concept to me, and even may keep you from happiness because you're too busy seeking an answer.
    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's? Plato oriented himself around the spiritual whereas Aristotle concepts himself into science. It may be too soon to say but I prefer Aristotle if I had to absolutely pick. Otherwise, it'd be neither.

    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it? For the success someone has achieved in their life is Eudaimonia. I feel as if hard work and consistency is the root to success. For a much greater impact is to humble yourself and helping those around and future generations. I have achieved Eudaimonia and will continue to achieve it many times.

    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not? To never question authority is against his research. Aristotle is all about question and researching. I defer to my manager at work all the time, yet I'm always open to his opinion upon things. All because he may be wrong upon forcing people to come to work when they have COVID, doesn't mean he can't be a great teacher in leadership and knowledge on how to cook good food. His knowledge is credible, but despite this his flaws exist.

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  42. 1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?
    The point he made was if you receive a little amount of happiness it does not truly make you a happy person, and I do agree with this to an extent if some one was deeply depressed you can laugh at a little joke but its not going to care your depression.

    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's?
    The school of Athens is the way that philosophy thinks compare too Aristotle where your leaning is an experience, I feel like you need both in life but if you actually go through the experience it teaches you a lot more

    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?
    When you accomplished success in life, when I think about this term I think about the end goal of success and for me personal I feel like if you have a plan and your on the right track your on the right pathway, even if you reach your goal then is room to make more and endure more teaching in your life which I wouldn’t have hit eudaemonia because my journey isn’t finish.

    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?
    What goes against Aristotle research is trust by authority he does not think trusting what some one else think because hat they think negative. I feel like that should not believed at all and it should be motivating.

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  43. #11
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    1. The point Aristotle was making was that one moment of happiness does not mean someone is happy. It takes more than fleeting feelings to determine if someone is happy with their life. I agree because even the most depressed people have moments of happiness and content but that doesn't mean that is how their life is regularly. Just as people that are happy often aren't always happy, so their lives are not made of pure happiness.
    2. The difference depicted between Aristotle and Plato in the painting is Plato is referring to the mystic land of Forms, and place intangible to most living and Aristotle is gesturing to the physical world saying that people should focus on the questions of the world right in front of them. I side with Aristotle on this. Not only does the world of Forms seem pointless to ponder since no one can grasp it or use it in any ways and is strictly theoretical, but I think people should be asking questions about the world around them and figuring it out before we move on.
    3. eudaimonia is pursuing and achieving perfect happiness in one's lifetime. Aristotle said it is achievable by having a good character with strong virtues since doing what is right will lead you down the path of harmony. I don't think anyone can achieve eudaimonia considering it is something people chase their whole lives. If you think you achieved your full potential and stopped chasing it, then you haven't achieved it. Only after death can it be declared that someone lived their life to the fullest and most productive way. In a sense it is like entering the Hall of Fame for a sport. People can chase it their whole lives but won't be around to receive the award.
    4.Aristotle was against people taking authority's word as truth, He encouraged people to find the truth and not just settle for someone else's words. A lot of times I defer to my parents since in my eyes have always had the right answers. I think it's common for kids to see their parents as all-knowing, and even though we grow out of that, we still look to them for guidance a lot of times.

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  44. Overthink podcast "Sartres the Look" #11
    I watched an episode from the Overthink podcast and I highly encourage everyone to watch it as well. It took a well discussed topic and elaborated on it and dug deeper in a way that I had never thought of it before. The episode was called "Sartres the Look" and it talked about how people see themselves as the center of the universe in some instances and the object of another's universe in other instances. The lady talking went on to say that in the moment of seeing someone else who thinks it is their world you start to recognize yourself as an object living in their world. She connects this transition to feeling shame and pride by pretty much saying that people who embrace themselves as the object feel prideful and those that try to neglect it feel shameful of themselves. I can't explain it as well as she can, so I highly recommend looking at it but in a sense pride and shame are the caused by the same stimulus and recognition of events just interpreted and embraced in different ways.

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  45. LHP

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    What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?

    The point Aristotle is making here is that singular moments of bliss in life are not equal to happiness. He is saying that to truly experience happiness is to have lived a flourishing long life. He also says our happiness depends on how people close to us flourish as well. He even brings up the idea that children are not truly happy. I do not agree with Aristotle here because I have all that I need at this moment in time, I do not need to accomplish many things as I get older to make me happy. In my season of life, I am happy despite not having lived a full life yet.

    What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens?

    In The School of Athens, it depicts Plato looking out into the distance to the sky. This depicts the idea that Plato is looking for things outside of this world that are transcendent to look for answers. On the other hand, Aristotle is looking inside the building to show that all the knowledge he needs to look for is on this earth and right in front of us.

    What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?

    Eudaimonia is the state of happiness being achieved by reaching the goal you strived for. We can increase our chances by realizing that we can help others and by understanding that planting a tree now will not cause us to have shade, but it will for future generations. I feel that I am happy where I am and live a happy life.

    What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?

    To question authority is against Aristotle's research. I defer to biblical authority because I believe it to be true.

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  46. #11
    1. Aristotle's point in this writing is happiness is not something that can be obtained in an instant, and being happy does not mean simply feeling joy or pleasure in a single moment, it is something much more long term. I completely agree with that message.
    2. Plato's thinks more of hypotheticals rather than things that are real and physical, while Aristotle thinks the exact opposite only focusing on things he can see and touch.
    3.The word translates to happiness but its true meaning is to be completely content for a long period of time possibly life long.
    4.Aristotle believed that you should not question authority simply because of who the people are in control. I defer to government authority simply because it is usually out of my mind and trust it implicitly.

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  47. LHP 2

    Makenzie keen section #13
    1. What point was Aristotle making when he wrote of swallows and summer? Do you agree?

    Aristotles point when he wrote of swallows and summer was that one small fleeting feeling of happiness is not true happiness. I agree with this because the feeling of happiness is dependent on so many factors and that feeling can go away in almost an instant, the pursuit of happiness is a long journey and it is not dependent on just one factor, like the arrival of one swallow.

    2. What philosophical difference between Plato and Aristotle is implied by The School of Athens? Whose side are you on, Plato's or Aristotle's?
    The school of Athens implies that Aristotle was always interested in everything, very skeptical, and he wondered about the things around him, while Plato was more interested in the spiritual and conceptual side of things. I am torn between them both, I feel like their ideals almost go hand in hand, I think we must understand the things around us physically first before we begin to understand the spiritual aspects.

    3. What is eudaimonia, and how can we increase our chances of achieving it, and in relation only to what? Do you think you've achieved it?
    Eudaimonia is achieving true happiness, and not just fleeting moments of bliss. According to Aristotle, to increase our chances of achieving it we can dig deep and “develop the right kind of character.,” in relation to our morals, virtues, and habits. I do not think I have achieved eudaemonia just yet, but I hope to be on that path.


    4. What reliance is completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research? Are there any authorities you always defer to? Why or why not?

    Relying on someone else's authority was completely against the spirit of Aristotle's research. I try to keep from deferring to any authority usually, I find it hard to believe something without concrete evidence and reasoning so for that reason it is hard for me to rely on someone else's authority without looking into things on my own.

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  48. #11 LHP Questions 2
    1. He meant that a few moments of pleasure don't make happiness, just like how the arrival of a swallow don't mean summer has come. I agree, happiness is an active lifestyle choice.
    2. Plato points upwards, alluding to the world he refers to in the Theory of Forms. Aristotle gestures out to the earth, emphasizing his interest in the world we exist in. I respond more to Aristotle's view since the world is observable and should be prioritized by humans.
    3. Eudaimonia meant "flourishing" and "success" and was how Aristotle quantified human happiness. To increase your chance at Eudaimonia, you'd need to develop the right kind of character. This is all in relation to life in a society. I definitely haven't achieved it.
    4. Reliance on authority. I wouldn't say there are authorities I always defer to besides my own conscience and my own impulses, for better or worse.

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