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Tuesday, November 16, 2021

Questions Nov 17/18

 K ch2; The Moral Equivalent of War

Study Questions

1. "Anhedonia" is what?

2. What was Renouvier's definition of free will?

3. Renouvier said an individual's will could break what?

4. What must one frequently do, according to James, to establish reciprocity in a relationship?

5. "Looking on the bright side," though often not objectively warranted, is nonetheless what?

6. Why did James think most of his contemporaries would not have preferred to "expunge" the Civil War?

7. Readiness for war is the essence of what, according to General Lea?

8. James says he devoutly believes in what, and in a future that has outlawed what?

9. Non-military conscription of our "gilded youth" would do what for them, according to James?

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Discussion Questions

  • Is suffering the rule, not the exception, in the human condition? 43
  • Can facing death provide an impetus to live? 46
  • Why do you think so many who attempt and fail suicide say they experienced immediate regret for the attempt? 47
  • What has believing in free will enabled you to do, that you couldn't or wouldn't have done otherwise? 
  • Are you ever unsettled by a "psychological upturn"? 51
  • Do you consider yourself fully "embodied"? 54
  • Do you find anything about war "ideal, sacred, spiritual" etc.?
  • Can sports function as a moral equivalent of war, at least to the extent of channeling our martial imupulses into benign forms of expression on playing fields, in harmless competition? Or do sports intensify and exacerbate the aggressive side of human nature?
  • Are most politicians "pliant" like McKinley, easily "swept away" by war fever?
  • Do we glorify war and millitarism excessively, in this culture? 
  • "Patriotism no one thinks discreditable" (1284). True? Should we sharply distinguish patriotism from nationalism?
  • What do you think of James's references to our "feminism" as a mark of weakness or lack of hardihood? 1285-6
  • Instead of an army enlisted "against Nature," do you think we can muster an army in defense of nature and against anthropogenic environmental destruction?

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 LISTEN (11.9.21). "The war against war is going to be no holiday excursion or camping party," begins James's "Moral Equivalent of War." This is no idle metaphysical dispute about squirrels and trees, it's ultimately about our collective decision as to what sort of species we intend to become. It's predicated on the very possibility of  deciding anything, of choosing and enacting one identity and way of being in the world over another. Can we be more pacifistic and mutually supportive, less belligerent and violent? Can we pull together and work cooperatively in some grand common cause that dwarfs our differences? Go to Mars and beyond with Elon, maybe? 

It's Carl Sagan's birthday today, he'd remind us that while Mars is a nice place to visit we wouldn't probably want to live there. Here, on this "mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam," is where we must make our stand. Here, on the PBDThe only home we've ever known.

In light of our long human history of mutual- and self-destruction, the substitution for war of constructive and non-rapacious energies directed to the public good ought to be an easier sell. Those who love the Peace Corps and its cousin public service organizations are legion, and I'm always happy to welcome their representatives to my classroom. Did that just last year... (continues)

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The Moral Equivalent of War

by William James
This essay, based on a speech delivered at Stanford University in 1906, is the origin of the idea of organized national service. The line of descent runs directly from this address to the depression-era Civilian Conservation Corps to the Peace Corps, VISTA, and AmeriCorps. Though some phrases grate upon modern ears, particularly the assumption that only males can perform such service, several racially-biased comments, and the notion that the main form of service should be viewed as a "warfare against nature," it still sounds a rallying cry for service in the interests of the individual and the nation.

The war against war is going to be no holiday excursion or camping party. The military feelings are too deeply grounded to abdicate their place among our ideals until better substitutes are offered than the glory and shame that come to nations as well as to individuals from the ups and downs of politics and the vicissitudes of trade. There is something highly paradoxical in the modern man's relation to war. Ask all our millions, north and south, whether they would vote now (were such a thing possible) to have our war for the Union expunged from history, and the record of a peaceful transition to the present time substituted for that of its marches and battles, and probably hardly a handful of eccentrics would say yes. Those ancestors, those efforts, those memories and legends, are the most ideal part of what we now own together, a sacred spiritual possession worth more than all the blood poured out. Yet ask those same people whether they would be willing, in cold blood, to start another civil war now to gain another similar possession, and not one man or woman would vote for the proposition. In modern eyes, precious though wars may be they must not be waged solely for the sake of the ideal harvest. Only when forced upon one, is a war now thought permissible... (continues)

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War

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy 

Some reject the very idea of the “morality of war”.[1] Of those, some deny that morality applies at all once the guns strike up; for others, no plausible moral theory could license the exceptional horrors of war. The first group are sometimes called realists. The second group are pacifists. The task of just war theory is to seek a middle path between them: to justify at least some wars, but also to limit them (Ramsey 1961). Although realism undoubtedly has its adherents, few philosophers find it compelling.[2] The real challenge to just war theory comes from pacifism. And we should remember, from the outset, that this challenge is real. The justified war might well be a chimera.

However, this entry explores the middle path between realism and pacifism. It begins by outlining the central substantive divide in contemporary just war theory, before introducing the methodological schisms underpinning that debate. It then discusses the moral evaluation of wars as a whole, and of individual acts within war (traditionally, though somewhat misleadingly, called jus ad bellum and jus in bello respectively)... (continues)

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In recognition of Veterans Day, war poetry... Top 10 War Poems... Poems Against War... Teddy Roosevelt on "The Strenuous Life"...
  

19 comments:

  1. H03

    Is suffering the rule, not the exception, in the human condition? 43

    I wouldn’t think that suffering is a common rule, but I also do feel that everyone may suffer with something in life.

    Can facing death provide an impetus to live? 46

    I feel like a near death experience could vary for everyone when it comes to having a different outlook on living. For instance, in class the example of people who jumped of building to commit suicide and in that moment realized they wanted to live.

    Do we glorify war and millitarism excessively, in this culture?

    I do feel like in American culture we glorify militarism because I feel like America loves the idea and act of violence.

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  2. H03
    Do you find anything about war "ideal, sacred, spiritual" etc.?
    I don't, war sucks.

    "Anhedonia" is what?
    The inability to feel pleasure.

    What was Renouvier's definition of free will?
    Human individuality.

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  3. H2 : HANNAH LITVJAK

    "Is suffering the rule, not the exception, in the human condition? 43"

    Yes. Suffering, whether minor, mild or severe, is unavoidable in each and every person's life. Without suffering, our minds cannot reflect upon ourselves in necessary ways such as: prioritizing what we live for, our moral codes, our ethics, etc.


    "Can facing death provide an impetus to live? 46"

    For some, yes. The idea of death is starkly different from experiencing a close call from it, and it can have different effects on people. Some may have a reinvigorated will to live because they realize all that they will miss out on, they do not want to burden their families, they are afraid of the outcome for their soul, they do not want to exit life so soon/yet, etc. For others it is a warm welcome ripped away.


    "Why do you think so many who attempt and fail suicide say they experienced immediate regret for the attempt? 47"

    I would believe that they come to realize the permanency of their choice. No more time with family, to be the cause of suffering for your family, to not have anymore life experiences, etc.

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  4. H3
    Is suffering the rule, not the exception, in the human condition?
    This question depends on what one believes the reason they are here is. If someone believes in an afterlife beyond and greater than earth then suffering is the rule. If someone believes life on earth is all we get then suffering would be the exception.

    Can facing death provide and impetus to live?
    I think facing death and evading it would cause someone to realize what they have and what they possibly could have left.

    Why do you think so many who attempt and fail suicide say they experienced immediate regret for the attempt?
    Similar to the answer to the last question, I think when someone faces a near death experience they realize what and who they could have left behind and realize how suddenly it could have all been gone.

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  5. H03
    "Why do you think so many who attempt and fail suicide say they experienced immediate regret for the attempt? 47

    I think some people see how wrong they were about others’ opinions of them. Like I said in the last post, you may never know how much someone cares about you until they tell you. We never know all the thoughts of others. So, a failed attempt may be a means for some to realize how different the situation is.

    Is suffering the rule or the exception, in the human condition?
    I still do not know. It seems suffering is inevitable, but I’m not to quick to jump to conclusions. I think suffering also has to do with one’s perception, but to an extent. From prior knowledge from a human geography class, I think Buddhism has more to say about suffering

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  6. H03
    Can sports function as a moral equivalent of war, at least to the extent of channeling our martial impulses into benign forms of expression on playing fields, in harmless competition? Or do sports intensify and exacerbate the aggressive side of human nature?

    I don’t think so. Of course, sports can become intense and overly physical but, in most cases, everyone understands that it is just a game. In most cases, it is a harmless competition and is nowhere near the aggression of war. For example, in soccer, if someone is injured the game is stopped and all the players on the field are concerned for the well-being of their teammate or opponent. Instead in war, the objective is to kill and hurt others there is no pausing on a battlefield. In all sports, there are rules in place to prevent players from hurting each other whereas in war the main objective is to hurt. There are definitely times where sports have gotten out of hand and aggression has taken the best of someone but this is not what sports are rooted in.

    What has believing in free will enabled you to do, that you couldn't or wouldn't have done otherwise?

    It helps me to make decisions on my own. Believing I have control of my own life encourages me to take care of myself and have motivation. If I didn’t have free will I think I would be really depressed because I would have nothing to look forward to. I enjoy being able to choose how to live my life. I am someone who looks forward to my future and part of that is deciding what that future looks like and without free will I wouldn’t be able to do that.

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    1. I love that free will has enabled you to take control of your life. I agree that life would be depressing without free will. A large part of life is being able to make your own choices.

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    2. H01
      That's true a lot of my motivation comes from believing I have the power to change and knowing my futures outcome isn't inevitable.

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  7. (H03)

    Is suffering the rule, not the exception, in the human condition?

    I would argue that suffering is generally the rule, even at a basic level. It's rare that at least one part of your body or soul is not suffering from anything to a mild discomfort to extreme pain or stress. A lack of suffering is the exception, but the gap and noticing of suffering usually makes this appear less true, as we generally only classify large stresses and pains as true suffering.


    Can sports function as a moral equivalent of war, at least to the extent of channeling our martial impulses into benign forms of expression on playing fields, in harmless competition? Or do sports intensify and exacerbate the aggressive side of human nature?

    I think that sports would allow venting of energy and competitiveness, but as we have seen there are still negatives. Fans can become violent or tribal in nature, there can be violence cheating, and politics behind the scenes, etc. And the higher the stakes, the more humans tend to get violent or "evil".

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    1. I would also like to add that sports can be dangerous for the athletes as seen by the brain damage some football players get after playing for many years.

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  8. H2. Is suffering the rule, not the exception, in the human condition?

    Ultimately, I believe it depends on that person’s definition or consideration of suffering. Personally, however, I do think suffering is an inevitable part of life, whether it be crucial or minor. There are a variety of factors throughout life that lead to suffering, but I believe the more important part is overcoming and surpassing those difficult periods.

    Why do you think so many who attempt and fail suicide say they experienced immediate regret for the attempt?

    I believe one may feel immediate regret because they must now realize the severity of their decision. Attempting to end your own life is an extremely crucial and intense choice to decide upon, therefore failing and coming to terms with the permanency and the affects this would have placed on one’s family would make someone instantly regret and reconsider their options.

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    1. H01 I agree that someone who attempted suicide may see how permanent the choice they made could have been, and may have changed what they see in life. It would probably be different for everyone.

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  9. Is suffering the rule, not the exception, in the human condition?
    - Yes, we must suffer to be alive because suffering gives a reason to keep fighting for better things. Suffering is a part of life.

    Can facing death provide an impetus to live?
    - Yes, if you face the idea that there is no reason to live you will find a reason worth fighting for even if that reason is just a fear of what comes after life.

    Why do you think so many who attempt and fail suicide say they experienced immediate regret for the attempt?
    - They now have to live with themselves and their choices. They also experienced a point in their life that was dark, so their may be some dissapointment with themselves for putting themselves in that dark place.

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  10. H01
    Why do you think so many who attempt and fail suicide say they experienced immediate regret for the attempt?
    There's a quote that I've seen circulating the internet: "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem." Most people who attempt suicide are doing so to reach out for help because they are not receiving the help they need. I believe that the people who attempt suicide regret the decision because they later realize how permanent death is. They understand that there was a better solution to their problems and that suicide was not the only option on the table.
    Do we glorify war and millitarism excessively, in this culture?
    America is a country of war. We have countless movies painting people who have committed war crimes as heroes to the American people, so I definitely feel like we unnecessarily glorify war to the point of painting an unrealistic picture of what war really is like and the lasting effect it has on people and their communities.

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    1. I don't think that people who attempt suicide regret their decision. They know exactly what the outcome of the decision would be...they also know there are other options, but they continue to attempt suicide.

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  11. H01
    Can facing death provide an impetus to live?
    I think it can. It seems like a near death experience would make you appreciate life more.

    What has believing in free will enabled you to do, that you couldn't or wouldn't have done otherwise?

    I think having hope that a certain outcome is possible even when it doesn't look like it will happen. Knowing that fate has already been determined would make me realize that what I hope for doesn't matter because the outcome has already been decided.

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  12. 1. "Anhedonia" is what? 42
    The inability to feel pleasure.
    2. What was Renouvier's definition of free will? 47
    The sustaining of a thought because I choose to when I might have other thoughts.
    3. Renouvier said an individual's will could break what? 48
    Could break the logical continuity of a mechanical series and be the initial cause of another series of phenomena.

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