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Tuesday, October 3, 2023

Questions Oct 5

 LHP

1. How did Mill disagree with Bentham about pleasure? Are they both right?

2. What view did Mill defend in On Liberty? Is that view consistent with his criticisms of Bentham?

3. What's the benefit to society of open discussion, according to Mill, and what's wrong with being dogmatic? Is our society generally "open" in this sense, or dogmatic?

4. Who did Bishop Wilberforce debate at Oxford in 1860? What do you think of his response to the Bishop on the matter of ancestry?

5. The single best idea anyone ever had was what, according to whom? Can you think of a better one?

6. What scientific developments since Darwin's time establish evolution by natural selection as more than just a theory or hypothesis? What does it take to turn a theory into something more?

7. Who was the Danish Socrates, and what was most of his writing about? What do you think of his "leap" and his irrationalism?

8. Why is faith irrational, according to Nigel Warburton? Do you agree?

9. What is "the subjective point of view"? Do we need to value objectivity as well?

10. Why was Karl Marx angry? How did he think the whole of human history could be explained? DId he have a point?

11. What was Marx's "vision"? Is it an appealing one

12. What did Marx call religion? Was he being unfair?

HWT
1. What two concepts from Indian and Buddhist philosophy are essentially the same? 


2. What are the four stages of Hindu life?

3. What is "the smile of philosophy"?

FL
1. What were Americans spending a third of their time doing, by the end of the '50s?

2. Who grew up in Marceline, MO?

3. What fantasy did Hugh Hefner sell?

4. What was added to currency in 1954?

5. What did Jane Roberts "discover" in 1963?

6. The sudden embrace of what, in the 60s, helped turn America into Fantasyland?






26 comments:

  1. 1. Mill said that you can have different kinds of pleasure, and some were better than others. I think they can both be right.

    2. He defended the harm principle and paternalism. The view is consistent with his criticisms of Bentham.

    3. The benefit would be to make you think harder about what you believe. Dogmatic is wrong because all your views would have no backing, so you cannot defend them. I feel like our society is both, just depends on what we are talking about.

    4. Thomas Henry Huxley. I think he was right and that we descended from apes.

    5. The contemporary philosopher Daniel Dennett has called it "the
    single best idea anyone has ever had." The only other idea I can think of is whoever idea it was to make Nutella.

    6. Genetics and chromosomes. It takes tests and evidence to prove it as more than a theory.

    7. Soren Kierkegaard and most of his writing was about God. I think it is hard to believe in something, especially with no evidence.

    8. Faith is irrational because it is not based on reason. I do agree with this because faith requires you to believe in something that you cannot know is true.

    9. The subjective point of view is the experience of the individual making choices. I think we do because it helps us stay balanced.

    10. Marx was angry because of the working conditions in the Industrial Revolution. He thought human history could be explained as a class struggle. I think he does have a point and it is a problem now as well.

    11. Marx's vision was that everyone would contribute what they could and society would provide in return. I think it is appealing, but I do not think it is possible.

    12. Marx called religion the drug of the people and would cause them to be blinded by the actual state that they were in. I think he was being unfair because I think for some people religion can bring clarity.

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  2. Section #11
    LHP:
    1. Bentham believed that pleasure could come from wherever and could be whatever there was no difference between two types of pleasures; whereas Mill believed that there were multiple types of pleasures and that they were separate some being higher and others being lower. They are both correct in their own ways, Pleasures can come in many forms and the chemical reactions in the human brain will produce similar chemical reactions in the brain during times of pleasure, but at the same time some forms of pleasure can produce more chemicals reactions than others.
    2. In his book On Liberty he defends the idea that society should be organized to allow each individual to grow as they see fit for themselves. I would say no it goes with Bentham's beliefs on pleasure.
    3. Mill was for open discussion in society because it forced you to think hard about what you believed, his problem with dogmatism was that you could not really defend those beliefs. I believe our society is dogmatic as in they pick what they want to believe based on a social status or friend group, it's becoming more common to believe in your own opinions though.
    4. Thomas Henry Huxley. I like his response to the bishop it was a smart remark as well as intelligent.
    5. The best idea in the world according to Daniel Dennett was Charles Darwin's theory on evolution. Indoor plumbing was the best idea humanity has produced.
    6. With access to Genetic information and more Fossils than in Darwin's times have produced information to conclude that Darwin's theory on evolution could be more than a theory or hypothesis. In order to prove a theory, it must produce the correct answer to your question over and over again every time you run an experiment.
    7. Soren Kierkegaard was the Danish Socrates and most of his writings were mostly about trying to live a life determining if your decisions are the right ones. I think that his idea of faith being a leap into darkness or irrationalism is a lot similar to pyrrho's wager.
    8.He claims faith is irrational because it is not based on reason. I do not agree it might not be to reason for certain people, but for other people it's not reasonable that there is no God.
    9. I think the idea of valuing objectivity is a good idea to a certain extent. If something truly should be questioned then I believe everyone has the right to express their opposing views, but if someone is the type of person who always chooses to only see the negative in everything their words in my mind are less objective and more of hatred and petty, not worthy of consideration in important ethical or moral decisions.
    10. Karl Marx was angry because of the conditions of the working people and the perspectives the aristocrats held towards their employees. He thought that the whole human history could be explained as a class struggle: the struggle between the rich capitalist class (who he called 'the bourgeoisie') and the working class (the proletariat). He does indeed have a point, that's all the world has ever consisted of. Wealthy rulers bringing workers and or soldiers around the globe increasing their wealth and territory.
    11. Marx's vision was a society where each person would contribute whatever they could to society in turn would provide for them. " From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." It's appealing in a perfect world full of honest folks, but not an appealing vision for this world we live in.
    12. Marx called religion 'the opium of the people' he said, "it was like a drug keeping them in a sleepy state, so they didn't realize their true oppressed condition."

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    1. John Stuart Mill agreed with Jeremy Bentham that the best action is the one that produces the most happiness but he thought that Bentham’s ideas of happiness were too simple. Bentham believed that all that counts are pleasurable experiences, no matter how they are produced and Mill believed that you could have different kinds of pleasure and that some were much better than others. This theory caused Mill to develop his own theory about how there are higher and lower pleasures and how lower pleasures could never match the smallest quantity of the higher pleasures.

    2. In John Mill’s book “On Liberty” he defends his view that giving each person space to develop as they saw fit was the best way to organize society. I do not think that this view is far from Bentham’s ideas so I would say that it is not consistent with his criticisms of Bentham.

    3. According to John Mill, open discussion was great for society because it forced people to think constructively about what they believed. The problem with being dogmatic is that you cannot defend your own beliefs, so those beliefs become prejudices. In retrospect of politics, I think that our society is generally more dogmatic. People who understand politics are often one-sided and refuse to hear the other side out, while people who do not understand politics are quick to pick a side without knowing what that side supports.

    4. Bishop Samuel Wilberforce debated with Thomas Henry Huxley in Oxford’s Museum of Natural History in 1860. I think Huxley’s response to the Bishop is humorous because he is basically just calling the Bishop stupid.

    5. Daniel Dennett labeled Darwin’s theory of evolution as “the single best idea anyone has ever had.” I think that the best idea anyone ever had was the idea to purify water.

    6. Scientific developments such as genetics, genes, chromosomes, and the chemical processes involved in passing on particular qualities and fossils have established evolution by natural selection as more than just a theory. To turn a theory into a law you must practice and observe the theory and other people must agree with your theory.

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    7. The Danish Socrates was philosopher Søren Kierkegaard. Most of Søren Kierkegaard’s writing was about choosing how to live and the difficulty of knowing that your decision is the right one. I agree with the idea that being religious takes a leap of faith and that to truly worship God you must have full faith in God.

    8. According to Nigel Warburton faith is irrational because it is not based on reason.

    9. The subjective point of view is the experience of the individual making choices. Most subjective thinkers must accept uncertainty while objective thinkers have a need to define uncertainty. I believe that we should value subjective and objective points of view because subjective is more opinion-based and objective is more fact-based.

    10. Karl Marx was angry about the grim conditions that the Industrial Revolution had produced. The whole of human history can be explained as a class struggle between the rich and the working class. I believe that Karl Marx is right especially about the idea that the working-class relationship has stopped human beings from achieving their potential and has turned work into a dreaded day-to-day activity. This idea is why many people believe that the American dream is dead.

    11. Marx’s vision is that capitalism would destroy itself and the lower class would take over in a violent revolution. Then a better world would emerge and people would be creative and co-operate with each other. In his vision, each person would contribute whatever they could to society, and society in turn would provide for them. This is an appealing vision, but I would doubt the intentions and the honesty of all the people within this vision. What if someone is not doing their fair share of the work or is not putting in their fair share of contributions?

    12. Karl Marx referred to religion as “the opium of the people.” He believed that religion was like a drug keeping people in a sleepy state so they didn’t realize their true oppressed condition. I believe that his opinion of religion is unfair and dishonest. Many people, including myself, use religion as a moral compass that leads us in the right direction.

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  5. Section 13
    1. Bentham considered only quantity of pleasure, but Mill considered both quantity and quality of pleasure. I think that Mill is correct because Mill contends that pleasure is not merely one thing that contributes to our well-being, it the only think. He describes "happiness" as pleasure and freedom of pain and I 100% agree with this.
    2. Mill argued against censorship. Or in other would defense of freedom of thought and expression. It is consistent because they disagreed on many views and this is one of them. Bentham view is "utility in the largest sense, grounded on the permanent interests of man as a progressive being".
    3.
    4. Thomas Huxley. They went head-to- head in one of the most controversial ideas of the 19th century. Huxley said that he would prefer an ape to the Bishop as an ancestor. So you could say that they disagreed.
    5. Charles Darwin's brilliant theory that explains how species adapt and change. No I cannot.
    6. The modern synthesis a generation later, roughly between 1918 and 1932, broadly swept away all the alternatives to Darwinism. The discovery of facts that don't fit the theory.
    7. Danish Socrates was a Greek philosopher from Athens who is credited as the founder of Western philosophy and among the first moral philosophers of the ethical tradition of thought. I think that he was irrational when he said the soul is immortal.
    8. He says that faith is not based on reason. I do not agree with this. No matter what faith you have it is always based on reason.
    9. In philosophy, subjective specifically means relating to an object as it exists in the mind, as opposed to the thing as it exists in reality.
    10. He thought that the capitalistic system would inevitably destroy itself. This made him angry. I think that he had a point but the way that he went about it was incorrect.
    11. a new society based on economic plenty shared by all . It is an appealing vision
    12. the opiate of the masses. disconnecting disadvantaged people from the here and now.

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  6. 1. Bentham, you will remember, says that all that counts are pleasurable experiences, no matter how they are produced. Mill disagreed. He thought that you could have different kinds of pleasure and that some were much better than others, so much better that no quantity of the lower pleasure could ever match the smallest quantity of the higher one. Both have some truth.
    2. In 1859 he published a short but inspiring book defending his view that giving each person space to develop as they saw fit was the best way to organize society. That book is called On Liberty and it is still widely read today.
    3. Open discussion was of great benefit to society, he felt, because it forced people to think hard about what they believed. If you don’t have your views challenged by people with opposing views, then you will probably end up holding them as ‘dead dogmas’, prejudices that you can’t really defend. Our society is way too dogmatic.
    4. Thomas Henry Huxley, was a funny backhanded response.
    5. Theory of Evolution commented by Daniel Dennett. General/Special Theory of Relativity
    6. Evolutionary biology, specifically genetically based. Firstly, a theory is more than a hypothesis and is a concept that has been rigorously tested. The reason that a theory is not a law is because it has not been tested under EVERY possibility.
    7. Søren Kierkegaard, most of his writing was about choosing how to live and the difficulty of knowing that your decision is the right one. He must had loved her very much to not want her to share in his gloomy life.
    8. Faith is not based on reason, and I do agree.
    9. For Kierkegaard, the subjective point of view, the experience of the individual making choices, was all-important. Karl Marx took a broader view. Like Hegel, he had a grand vision of how history was unfolding and of the forces driving it. Unlike Kierkegaard, he saw no hope whatsoever of salvation through religion. Considering things objectively is a good idea too.
    10. As for the workers, the factory owners paid them as little as possible – often just what would keep them alive. The workers had no job security. If demand for whatever they were making declined, they were sacked and left to die if they couldn’t find more work. When the German philosopher Karl Marx (1818–83) began writing in the 1830s these were the grim conditions that the Industrial Revolution had produced not just in England, but all over Europe. It made him angry. He thought the whole of human history could be explained by class struggle. That is actually a basic explanation as far as I can tell.
    11. Each person would contribute whatever they could to society, and society in turn would provide for them: ‘from each according to his ability, to each according to his need’ was Marx’s vision. By taking control of factories, the workers would make sure that there was enough for everyone to have what they needed. No one need go hungry or without suitable clothing or shelter. This future was communism, a world based on sharing the benefits of co-operation. The concept of ‘The People’ running things is, to some degree appealing. Although the question is who decides who does what, who gets, what, what is fair, and so on. When such an enormous amount of power is given to anyone then they will inherently misuse the power. But not even mentioning the corruption, the problem is that how do we decide on what is right because there is no universal outline for life for everyone.
    12. Religion, he famously declared, was ‘the opium of the people’: it was like a drug keeping them in a sleepy state so they didn’t realize their true oppressed condition. To some degree he was being unfair, but then again I do agree in some way that that statement has merit.

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  8. #11
    1. Mills believed that there were different kinds of pleasure. I feel like Mills is correct because we all go through different experiences and things we find pleasurable in out lives. those pleasures can be high or low.

    2. "Giving each person space to develop as they saw fit was the best way to organize society." I feel like his view is consistent with his criticism of Bentham.

    3. Forced people to think hard on what they believed. Being dogmatic means a person has prejudice they cannot defend. I feel like it both.

    4. Thomas Henry Huxley. It was a cheeky response that he would rather be related to an Ape.

    5. Theory of Evolution according to Daniel Dennett. No.

    6. genetics, Chromosomes, and Fossils. More research and tests.

    7. Søren Kierkegaard most of his writings are about about how to live and knowing if you made the right decision. I think its a brave thing to do to have 100% full faith to ignore moral ethics.

    8. Faith is irrational because it goes against reason. I do agree.

    9. Making induvial choices. Yes we should be subjective and objective.

    10. He was anger because of the grim conditions the poor had to work for little money. He was also mad because the rich was getting richer in a capitalistic society. Human society can be explained between the bourgeoisie and the proletariat (rich and working class).

    11. His vision is that capitalism would destroy itself and people would start to realize that being creative and co-operating with each other is better. I think it is appealing

    12. He called religion, "the opium of the people." I do agree he was being unfair because some people use it to have faith in the world.

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  9. #10
    1. Mills believed that not all pleasure is equal and that there are higher and lower pleasures. I think that Mills is right because not everything is going to make you happy in the same way or to the same extent, and all people are different and find pleasure in different things.

    2. In On Liberty, Mills defended the view that each person should be given the space to develop on their own and as they saw fit. He argued that this was the best way to organize society, and I think that this view is consistent with his criticisms of Bentham because there’s more focus on the individual and how they understand more about what is best for them. His philosophy is very similar to Bentham’s but more personal.

    3. Open discussion forces people to confront their beliefs and opinions rather than just relying on what other people say. Dogmatic societies are dangerous because there isn’t any room for people to share ideas or challenge other views, and so the intellectual world just stagnates. I think our society could be a lot worse, but for the most part it is dogmatic.

    4. Bishop Wilberforce debated Thomas Henry Huxley in 1860. Huxley’s response was funny but I don’t think it was really helping his case (although the Bishop wasn’t really listening in the first place so being more polite probably wouldn’t have helped anyway).

    5. Daniel Dennett said that the Theory of Evolution was the very best idea ever thought up. I can’t think of a better one off the top of my head, so I guess he wins by default.

    6. The discovery of genetics establish evolution by natural selection as more than a theory. Enough empirical evidence takes a theory and turns it into something more.

    7. Soren Kierkegaard was the “Danish Socrates,” and he mostly wrote about religion. I think that he is right that having faith in God is the equivalent of taking a leap into the dark. Personally, I feel like it is irrational, but to someone who grew up in a religious home it probably feels like the most natural thing in the world to put all your trust in a higher power. I’m not judging; it’s just not my cup of tea.

    8. Faith is irrational because it isn’t based on reason. As said above, I agree with this but only because I was raised in a nonreligious family. I’m sure having this kind of faith comes as easily as breathing to some people, and if that’s what works for them, cool.

    9. The subjective point of view is making individual choices. We need to value both the subjective and the objective.

    10. Karl Marx lived during the Industrial Revolution and saw the harsh conditions that people had to work in. He thought that the whole of human history could be explained by the struggle between the bourgeoisie and the proletariats, and I think he does have a point there.

    11. In the Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx described the ideal world that would arise after the working class overthrew the capitalists. He thought that everyone would collectively own the means of production and everyone would equally share the resources. There would be no class system, no religion, no privately owned land, and education would be free. In this communist society, people would have the freedom to reach their full potential and engage in satisfying work. This world is extremely appealing, but I’m not sure if it’s possible.

    12. Marx called religion “the opium of the people,” and I think this is unfair. Having something to believe in, such as a supreme being, a divine creator, gets some people through life and keeps them going. If that’s what it takes for them to get out of bed in the morning and it isn’t harming anyone, then I think they should be free to practice whatever religion they want. Sometimes religion has been used to justify the oppression of people, but religion itself isn’t the problem, it’s the people. It should be up to the individual whether or not they are religious.

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  10. LHP #11

    1. Bentham believed that pleasurable experiments, no matter how they came about, are all that counts. Mil disagreed because he believed that there were some pleasures that were better than others. I think they are both right and it just depends on how you view things.

    2. Mill published a book called On Liberty defending his view that the best way to organize society is to give each person space "to develop as they saw fit". I think that view is consistent with his criticisms of Bentham.

    3. The benefit of open discussion to society was it made people think harder about what they believed. Being dogmatic is someone who is "very confident that they know the truth". The problem with that is that you can't defend those beliefs. I feel like our society has both.

    4. Bishop Wilberforce debated with Thomas Henry Huxley in 1860. I think it was a smart quick-witted response to the Bishop.

    5. According to Daniel Dennett the single best idea anyone ever had was Charles Darwin's theory of Evolution.

    6. Scientific developments such as genetics, chromosomes, and fossils. It takes more tests and research.

    7. The Danish Socrates, Søren Kierkegaard, most of his writings were about how to live and about knowing if you made the right decision. I agree with his leap of faith.

    8. According to Nigel Warburton, faith is irrational because it involves risk and it is not based on reason.

    9. For Kierkegaard, the subjective point of view, "the experience of the individual making choices." Yes, we to need to value objectivity as well.

    10. Karl Marx was angry because of the working conditions that people had to work in for only a little bit of money and thought that human beings should be treated equally, which they should. He thought that human history could be explained as a class struggle. I think he does have a point.

    11. Marx's vision was "each person would contribute whatever they could to society, and society in turn would provide for them". I think it is an appealing one.

    12. Marx called religion "the opium of the people".

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  11. Section 11

    1. I feel like he was trying to say there are something’s better than other and how they feel when we finally have them.

    2. He defended it he believed that one person is responsible for making there own decision and that’s not someone else’s choice

    3. I feel like open discussion can be both good and bad depending on the points that are being made I feel like our world is currently like this

    4. It was Thomas Henry Huxley who seemed like he was not taking things seriously

    5. The Big Bang Theory I feel like is important because it explains how the whole universe was created

    6. The evolution of man kind because of the way it works tells us how much humanity has evolved.

    7. He believed that you should have faith in god but how it’s also like taking a chance in my opinion it is something that doesn’t really connect with this idea it doesn’t make any sense

    8. Faith is basically having hope I feel like it depends on what works for you

    9. Individual choices are important to the person who’s making them not to anyone else

    10. Karl Marx was angry cause of the difficult problems that people had to work with he wanted people to understand with people struggling and people who weren’t

    11. Karl Marx wanted people to be treated as equal no one was considered superior or better than anyone else. I feel like this won’t happen

    12. He called it the opium of the people and that is no his decision to make. That is not something that we should talk about because we know nothing when it comes to those who have different beliefs than what we may have

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  12. LHP #10

    1. How did Mill disagree with Bentham about pleasure? Are they both right?

    Mill said you can have different types and levels of pleasure, with some being worse or better than others. I think they can both be right.

    2. What view did Mill defend in On Liberty? Is that view consistent with his criticisms of Bentham?

    The harm principle and paternalism. Yes.

    3. What's the benefit to society of open discussion, according to Mill, and what's wrong with being dogmatic? Is our society generally "open" in this sense, or dogmatic?

    Think hard about what you believe, and what’s wrong with it was you couldn’t defend those beliefs. Our society can definitely be both.

    4. Who did Bishop Wilberforce debate at Oxford in 1860? What do you think of his response to the Bishop on the matter of ancestry?

    Thomas Henry Huxley, and It was smart.

    5. The single best idea anyone ever had was what, according to whom? Can you think of a better one?

    Daniel Dennet said the best idea anyone ever had was Darwin’s theory of evolution. Not sure.

    6. What scientific developments since Darwin's time establish evolution by natural selection as more than just a theory or hypothesis? What does it take to turn a theory into something more?

    We have discovered more fossils and have better tech so his theory could become much more. Must give the same correct answer every time you try it.

    7. Who was the Danish Socrates, and what was most of his writing about? What do you think of his "leap" and his irrationalism?

    Soren Kierkegaard and his writing was about questions if what you were doing was right. I think it is a leap of faith.

    8. Why is faith irrational, according to Nigel Warburton? Do you agree?

    Claimed faith is irrational because it isn’t based on reason. I do not agree.

    9. What is "the subjective point of view"? Do we need to value objectivity as well?

    An individual making choices. I think this is important because if something should be questioned, people should have that right.

    10. Why was Karl Marx angry? How did he think the whole of human history could be explained? DId he have a point?

    Was angry because if working conditions. A class struggle, and I think he has a point. It’s still present today.

    11. What was Marx's "vision"? Is it an appealing one

    Everyone would put in all they had to society, and society would return it back. It sounds great but I don’t think it could happen.

    12. What did Marx call religion? Was he being unfair?

    Stated religion blinded people, and yes I think it is unfair.

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    1. Mills believed that there are different forms of pleasure, I agree with him because everyone finds pleasure in different things

    2. He defended it because he believed that only one person is responsible for the choices they make

    3. He believed that open discussion would be great for society because it forces people to think hard and defend their beliefs I believe our society has both

    4. Thomas Henry Huxley who did not take it seriously

    5. Daniel Dennett said the best theory ever thought was Charles Darwin's theory of evolution

    6. The discovery of genetics established through natural selection.

    7. Søren Kierkegaard, wrote about taking chances with your opinions, and I agree with him in this sense.

    8. Faith is irrational because it has no reason behind it, I agree and disagree

    9. Making Individual choices is subjective and we need to value both

    10. Marx was upset that the working conditions weren't balanced, and he believed that everyone should be treated equally. He thought human history could be explained through the struggle of humans.

    11. Marx said "each person would contribute whatever they could to society, and society in turn would provide for them" I agree with this

    12. Marx called religion the Opium of People which I don't agree with because some people's beliefs get them through life just fine and they shouldn't be judged for that in this sense

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    1. different types and magnitudes of emotions was Mill's argument.
    2. harm principle.
    3. facilitating the discovery of truth, preventing stagnation, fostering individual development, and protecting against tyranny, while he saw dogmatism as detrimental because it stifles intellectual growth and can lead to intolerance and authoritarianism. Society often exhibits a mix of both open and dogmatic tendencies, depending on the context and specific issues.

    4. thomas henry huxley

    5. daniel dennet like the evolutionary theory of darwin

    6. fossils. You have to have real physical proof that solidifies its truth.

    7. soren kierkegaard. wonders if we are doing things the way they should actually be done. I don't think it was a "leap of faith" but more of a hot take

    8. faith isn't based on evidence. I disagree

    9. Someone asking question, because we have the right to question anything questionable

    10. Working conditions made him mad and he compared human life to a class struggle. He is right, because all life is based around survival and thriving at any cost. Life is competetive

    11. marx said that if everyone put everything they had into their government, their government would give back equally and fairly. This is not possible

    12. He said religion inhibits people's view of real world situations. No, he is wrong. Religion often facilitates deeper thought of real world subjects.

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    LHP
    Section 13
    1. Mill disagreed with Benthams’ idea that all experiences are pleasurable experiences, he believed that there are different kinds of pleasure, and some were much better than others—there were higher and lower pleasures. I believe they are both right in a sense, but I agree more with mill, since there are some experiences that are better than others.
    2. Mill defended his idea that each human needs space to develop in their own way in his book “On Liberty”. This view is consistent with his criticisms on Bentham.
    3. The benefit to society of open discussion is that it forced people to think hard about what they truly believed, according to mill. The problem with dogmatism is that no one has challenged your views, so you cannot officially defend those views. In my opinion I would say our society is a mix of both, it just depends on the group of people you are around.
    4. Bishop Wilberforce debated Thomas Henry Huxley at Oxford in 1860. I think his response was very ironic considering the argument.
    5. The single best idea anyone ever had was Darwins idea on evolution, according to Daniel Dennet. I honestly cannot think of a better one.
    6. The scientific development of fossils helped establish darwins theory of evolution by natural selection as more than just a theory, since there was physical proof. Proof or evidence is what turns a theory into a fact.
    7. The Danish Socrates was Kierkegaard, and most of his writing was about his questions regarding faith, decision making and conventional moral wars. I think his “leap” and his irrationalism is very interesting and it makes a lot of sense because most things that are worth discovering require a leap of faith.
    8. According to Nigel Warburton faith is irrational because it is not based on reason and I agree mostly.
    9. The subjective point of view is the point of view that is making choices that are important to a singular person, I feel like objectivity is important but subjectivity is more important.10. Karl Marx was angry because he saw the horrible and inhumane treatment of the workers in England and all over Europe, he believed that all humans should be treated equally and in his time this was not a thought that was prevalent in society at all. He thought the whole of human history could be explained as a class struggle. He does have a point and I agree with him.
    11. Marx’s vision was that each human could contribute only what they can—or what they chose to for society, and we could cooperate and be creative and society would provide for eachother in this vision. This vision is an appealing one and one that I feel would honestly better our society.
    12.Marx called religion “the opium of the people”, I would say he wasn’t being unfair because during that age, religion was something people focused on more than any other factor in their life and it seemed to blind them from the real things happening infront of them like the economic state of their world.

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  16. 1. You can have different kinds of pleasure, some better than others. I think they both have a point
    2.Harm principle and paternalism. This is consistent
    3. Making you think harder about your belief/ Dogmatic is a spineless way of debate. I believe we are more dogmatic.
    4. Thomas Henry Huxley. I'm not sure. I think we are connected in some way.
    5. Daniel Dennett "the best idea anyone's had". I think music is one of the best ideas
    6. Genetics and chromosomes. Evidence and testing
    7. Soren Kierkegaard. Writings about God. I think that you need the will to believed.
    8. Faith is irrational. I think it is irrational but not invalid
    9. The experience of the individual making choices. I think we do sometimes.
    10. Working conditions in Industrial Revolution. Class struggle. I think it is a increasing problem.
    11. Everyone contribute to society and it would be returned. I think people are too selfish
    12. Religion is the drug of people. Blinded to actual state.

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  17. #13
    1.) Mill posited that pleasures come in various forms, with some being superior to others. I believe both perspectives can be valid.
    2,) He supported the harm principle and paternalism, aligning his views with criticisms of Bentham.
    3.)The benefit lies in prompting deeper reflection on one's beliefs. Dogmatism, lacking support for views, renders defense impossible. Society, in my view, embodies elements of both, contingent on the subject.
    4.) Regarding Thomas Henry Huxley, I agree with his assertion that we descended from apes.
    5.) Daniel Dennett hailed a certain idea as "the single best idea anyone has ever had." Another contender in my mind is the genius behind Nutella.
    6.) On genetics and chromosomes, substantiation through tests and evidence elevates it beyond mere theory.
    7.) Soren Kierkegaard, predominantly focused on God in his writings, presents a challenge in believing in something without evidence.
    8.) Faith, devoid of reason, is deemed irrational. I concur, as faith necessitates belief in the unknowable.
    9.) The subjective point of view encompasses an individual's choices. I believe in its utility for maintaining balance.
    10.) Marx's discontent stemmed from Industrial Revolution working conditions, positing human history as a class struggle. His point remains relevant today.
    11.) Marx envisioned a society where all contribute according to their ability, receiving equitable returns. While appealing, I find its feasibility questionable.
    12.) Marx dubbed religion the "drug of the people," inducing blindness to their actual state. I find this unfair, as for some, religion brings clarity.

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    1.both definitely have a point. there are different types of pleasure with different levels of enjoyment
    2.harm principle and paternalism. consistent
    3.It challenges your beliefs. Dogmatic beliefs are very inadequate, and personally I think society is mostly dogmatic
    4.Thomas Henry Huxley, personally I think he was right
    5. Daniel Dennett, Darwin's theory on evolution. Music and art in general are the best idea anyone's had in my opinion
    6.genetics, genes , chromosomes. practice and observation make theory into a language
    7.Kierkegaard. mostly about how to live and the difficulties of knowing what is the right decision. choosing a religion definitely is a leap of faith
    8.Faith is groundless, but not entirely wrong
    9. the experience of someone making decisions. I think both are needed
    10. labor conditions during the Industrial Revolution. class struggle. He did have a point, it's still an issue today
    11..no separation between private and common interest, if everyone contributed to a society it would be returned. it's definitely an agreeable standpoint, but today probably are definitely too selfish to be effective
    12.Marx referred to religion as "the opium of the people." from my perspective and personal experiences, I agree

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  19. LPH 19-23
    cannon cofran

    1. How did Mill disagree with Bentham about pleasure? Are they both right?

    Mill disagreed by saying that there are many different kinds of pleasure, all varying in potency. And i think yes it is possible, i think Bentham was making the claim that you can find pleasure anywhere and experiencing those pleasures are all that matter and that can definitely coincide with Mills’ ideas

    2. What view did Mill defend in On Liberty? Is that view consistent with his criticisms of Bentham?

    The harm principle and paternalism. But yes this is consistent with his views on Benthams statement

    3. What's the benefit to society of open discussion, according to Mill, and what's wrong with being dogmatic? Is our society generally "open" in this sense, or dogmatic?

    The benefits compel you to analyze your opinions better. Being dogmatic is bad because it encourages negligent behavior. Our society is “wishy-washy” in that sense because it really depends what the topic of discussion is, and it also differs from person to person.

    4. Who did Bishop Wilberforce debate at Oxford in 1860? What do you think of his response to the Bishop on the matter of ancestry?

    Thomas Huxley. I personally dont think it was factual although he definitely used logic and reason in his response.

    5. The single best idea anyone ever had was what, according to whom? Can you think of a better one?

    Daniel Dennett believed that the best idea that had ever been conceived was Darwins theory of evolution. I think that any theory trying to explain the process or origins of life are more or equally important as they are all just theories trying to provide answers for life.

    6. What scientific developments since Darwin's time establish evolution by natural selection as more than just a theory or hypothesis? What does it take to turn a theory into something more?

    The advancement of science. It must be repeatable and provide consistent results every time

    7. Who was the Danish Socrates, and what was most of his writing about? What do you think of his "leap" and his irrationalism?

    Soren Kierkegaard. He wrote about how to determine whether youre decisions are right or wrong. I afree witt he idea that being religious takes a leap of faith, and the only real way to worship God is to believe it whole heartedly.

    8. Why is faith irrational, according to Nigel Warburton? Do you agree?

    He said its irrational because it’s not based on reason. No i don’t agree

    9. What is "the subjective point of view"? Do we need to value objectivity as well?

    It is the experience of the individual making choices. It is important to value both because one we will be able to discern fact from fake and try to rationalize with one another.

    10. Why was Karl Marx angry? How did he think the whole of human history could be explained? DId he have a point?

    He was angry about the result of the industrial revolution. He thought that the whole world's history can be described simply as class struggle between the rich and the poor. No, i don’t believe so.

    11. What was Marx's "vision"? Is it an appealing one

    His vision was that capitalism would destroy itself and the lower class would take over in a violent revolution. Yes and no, yes because it promises equality within a society for all classes. And no because of the corruption and death and pain it would take to get there and continue to go on afterward as well.

    12. What did Marx call religion? Was he being unfair?

    He defined it as the opium of the people. I think that its an inaccurate statement in our new world. While it might have been that then, now it is merely information.

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  20. #13
    1. How did Mill disagree with Bentham about pleasure? Are they both right?
    There are different types of pleasure, some better than other. I think people find pleasure in various ways, I think both opinions are understandable.
    2. What view did Mill defend in On Liberty? Is that view consistent with his criticisms of Bentham?
    He believed in harm principle and paternalism. He believed everyone is reliable for their own actions.
    3. What's the benefit to society of open discussion, according to Mill, and what's wrong with being dogmatic? Is our society generally "open" in this sense, or dogmatic?
    I think open discussions can be good because it makes people reflect on their own beliefs. I think our society is both.
    4. Who did Bishop Wilberforce debate at Oxford in 1860? What do you think of his response to the Bishop on the matter of ancestry?
    Thomas Henry Huxley, I think it was interesting especially the part about the apes.
    5. The single best idea anyone ever had was what, according to whom? Can you think of a better one?
    Daniel Dennet said the best idea anyone ever had was Darwin’s theory of evolution, I am not sure what I think would be the best.
    6. What scientific developments since Darwin's time establish evolution by natural selection as more than just a theory or hypothesis? What does it take to turn a theory into something more?
    Evidence such as genes and genetics are more than just theory its proven through testing.
    7. Who was the Danish Socrates, and what was most of his writing about? What do you think of his "leap" and his irrationalism?
    Soren Kierkegaard, He wrote a lot questioning God. He struggled with not having evidence when it comes to faith.
    8. Why is faith irrational, according to Nigel Warburton? Do you agree?
    He thought faith was irrational because it is not based off of evidence or reason. I believe faith is based of reason because it give people a reason. I completely disagree.
    9. What is "the subjective point of view"? Do we need to value objectivity as well?
    I think people should have the right to individual opinions and decisions. I think generally we need both sometimes.
    10. Why was Karl Marx angry? How did he think the whole of human history could be explained? DId he have a point?
    Working conditions in Industrial Revolution and class struggle is why Karl Marx was angry. Rightfully so because this was a very real problem then and now as well.
    11. What was Marx's "vision"? Is it an appealing one
    "each person would contribute whatever they could to society, and society in turn would provide for them" I think this is not plausible, people are not that selfless and it could never be reality.
    12. What did Marx call religion? Was he being unfair?
    He believed people that were religious were delusional like they were taking drugs. He was being unfair, he has his own beliefs why couldn’t he respect other peoples?

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  21. LHP

    1. There are higher and lower pleasures, happiness as pleasure was "too crude." He thinks it depends on the quantity and quality. I think to an extent they are both correct.

    2. He defends his view that giving each person space to develop, much like the analogy of the tree mentioned previously in the passage, they could develop as they saw fit and it was the best way to organize society. This building onto his belief in Utilitarianism. I think it is consistnent.

    3. It forced people to think hard about what they believed. If you are dogmatic you will be stuck in your ways and not learn by others, and have prejudices you can't defend. I think society is more dogmatic, most people resistent change and do not have an open mind. They think considering and idea and discussion implies they must agree or be converted, but this is not true.

    4. Thomas Henry Huxley. He said he'd rather be related to an ape than to a human that held back debate and made fun of scientific ideas. I thought it was an interesting response.

    5. According to philosopher Daniel Dennett, he considered Darwin's theory of evolution to be the best idea anyone ever had. Freud's theory of the unconscious has a similar profound and controversial effect when you consider his time period. I think it could at least challenge it as a candidate for a better idea.

    6. He studied bird beaks and the environment. The theory could apply to situations, and such. A theory would require definitive proof, and quanitative evidence. His theory on natural selection, which was the process that leads the best-adapted to survive to pass on their characteristics, is profound.

    7. Soren Kierkegaard, the decision to believe in god requires a leap into the dark. When you have a faith, you may go against morals.

    8. He questions how do you know it's not a hallucination and such. And how easily faith could override morals. I do agree with this.

    9. The experience of the individual making choices, was all important. I think we do, they are both important and add depth to our thinking.

    10. He was angry no one was treated equally. He thought it could be explained as a class struggle. He does have a point, class systems, feudalism, and these things have existed in multiple parts throughout the world for centuries.

    11. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Was his vision. It is, but a vision can have flaws.

    12. "The opium of the people." He felt essentially, these people could not be conscious of the world, were accepting, and did not realize their oppressed condition. He is being unfair, he can respect people's choice of religion.

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  22. 1. Mill disagreed with Bentham's ideas about pleasure because there are multiple pleasures and they vary. I think I agree more with Mill's idea of pleasure. Pleasures can be a wide range of feelings and many other ways.
    2. Mill defended that each person should have space to develop and change. I feel this built onto his idea of utilitarianism so it would be consistent with his views.
    3.open discussion made people think about what they believed. He had a problem with dogmatism because you couldn't really defend those beliefs. I think our society is very much this way because we all band wagon onto other peoples beliefs instead of taking our own route with it most of the time.
    4. Thomas Huxley was who Bishop debated. I liked his response. It really showed his intelligence.
    5. Darwin's theory of evolution was the “single best idea anyone has ever had’’ in the eyes of Daniel Dennett. I think it was a pretty good idea if you ask me.
    6. The discovery of genetics was what established evolution by natural selection as more than just a thought. Enough evidence and any theory can be turned into a proven fact.
    7.He was a greek philosopher who was the person who originated western philosophy. Most of his writings were about most of his writings were about how to live and your decision choices. I think it was very brave.
    8.He thinks it goes against the reasoning you have to make. The world and people need to have faith or our lives will be pretty depressing in my opinion.
    9.This meant making individual choices. I think we should.
    10. He was angry because of the poor conditions that he had to work for with little money offered.
    11.He thought capitalism would demolish itself and people would start to realize that creativity is good. I think this is appealing.
    12.He called it the opium of the people. I think he was being unfair by saying this.

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  23. Q1. How did Mill disagree with Bentham about pleasure? Are they both right?

    A1. Mill thought pleasure was more complex and nuanced then Bentham did. I agree with Mill more so than Bentham.

    Q2. What view did Mill defend in On Liberty? Is that view consistent with his criticisms of Bentham?

    A2. Give people the full space to grow. Yes.

    Q3. What's the benefit to society of open discussion, according to Mill, and what's wrong with being dogmatic? Is our society generally "open" in this sense, or dogmatic?

    A3. The challenging of ideas. You get stuck in your ways. Mixed.

    Q4. Who did Bishop Wilberforce debate at Oxford in 1860? What do you think of his response to the Bishop on the matter of ancestry?

    A4. Thomas Henry Huxley. It was quite good.

    Q5. The single best idea anyone ever had was what, according to whom? Can you think of a better one?

    A5. Darwin's theory of evolution; Daniel Dennett. Maybe.

    Q6. What scientific developments since Darwin's time establish evolution by natural selection as more than just a theory or hypothesis? What does it take to turn a theory into something more?

    A6.Genes and Genetics. More evidence.

    Q7. Who was the Danish Socrates, and what was most of his writing about? What do you think of his "leap" and his irrationalism?

    A7. Soren Kierkegaard, the leap of faith. It was not normal.

    Q8. Why is faith irrational, according to Nigel Warburton? Do you agree?

    A8. It goes against human morals. Yes.

    Q9. What is "the subjective point of view"? Do we need to value objectivity as well?

    A9. The experience of the individual making choices. Yes.

    Q10. Why was Karl Marx angry? How did he think the whole of human history could be explained? DId he have a point?

    A10. Not everyone was treated equally. As a class struggle. Yes.

    Q11. What was Marx's "vision"? Is it an appealing one?

    A11. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Yes.

    Q12. What did Marx call religion? Was he being unfair?

    A12. "The opium of the people." No.

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  24. 1. How did Mill disagree with Bentham about pleasure? Are they both right?
    He thought there were many types of pleasure so it's hard to say which is the 'best.' I think they are both right.
    2. What view did Mill defend in On Liberty? Is that view consistent with his criticisms of Bentham?
    That people need space, that will help them develop, it is consistent.
    3. What's the benefit to society of open discussion, according to Mill, and what's wrong with being dogmatic? Is our society generally "open" in this sense, or dogmatic?
    It forced people to believe what they thought they knew, being dogmatic is bad because you couldn't really defend those beliefs. Our society is mixed.
    4. Who did Bishop Wilberforce debate at Oxford in 1860? What do you think of his response to the Bishop on the matter of ancestry?
    Thomas Henry Huxley, his response was good.
    5. The single best idea anyone ever had was what, according to whom? Can you think of a better one?
    Darwin's theory of evolution according too Daniel Dennett. I don't think I can.
    6. What scientific developments since Darwin's time establish evolution by natural selection as more than just a theory or hypothesis? What does it take to turn a theory into something more?
    Genes and Genetics he proved it through lots of research.
    7. Who was the Danish Socrates, and what was most of his writing about? What do you think of his "leap" and his irrationalism?
    Soren Kierkegaard, a leap of faith. He has a couple of points.
    8. Why is faith irrational, according to Nigel Warburton? Do you agree?
    Its based of faith and reality, I do in some ways.
    9. What is "the subjective point of view"? Do we need to value objectivity as well?
    Individual choices, I think we should because it's good for everyone.
    10. Why was Karl Marx angry? How did he think the whole of human history could be explained? DId he have a point?
    He was angry because of inequality of people and history could be explained by class struggle between the rich and the poor.
    11. What was Marx's "vision"? Is it an appealing one
    People would provide what they can, for themselves and each other. I think it Is appealing.
    12. What did Marx call religion? Was he being unfair?
    Opium of the people, I don't think so no.

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  25. #11
    1. How did Mill disagree with Bentham about pleasure? Are they both right? Mill thought that there were different types of pleasure and it wasn't as simple as Bentham said. I think Bentham is more accurate than Mill in this case since Mill said higher pleasure came from more sophisticated things and said that no one could be more happy wallowing in the mud than reading which I don't agree with.

    2. What view did Mill defend in On Liberty? Is that view consistent with his criticisms of Bentham? People needed space to grow and flourish, yes.

    3. What's the benefit to society of open discussion, according to Mill, and what's wrong with being dogmatic? Is our society generally "open" in this sense, or dogmatic? Always challenging information can lead to new discoveries, dogmatists are stuck in their way, mixed.

    4. Who did Bishop Wilberforce debate at Oxford in 1860? What do you think of his response to the Bishop on the matter of ancestry?
    Thomas Huxley, I think his response was appropriate considering they were supposed to have a formal debate.
    5. The single best idea anyone ever had was what, according to whom? Can you think of a better one?
    Theory of Evolution Daniel Dennett thought was the best idea, it's possible.
    6. What scientific developments since Darwin's time establish evolution by natural selection as more than just a theory or hypothesis? What does it take to turn a theory into something more?
    Genetics and fossil discoveries, concrete evidence
    7. Who was the Danish Socrates, and what was most of his writing about? What do you think of his "leap" and his irrationalism?
    Soren Kierkegaard, how to determine good from bad and the leap of faith needed to be taken to believe in God. I think you do have to believe wholeheartedly or you're not truly believing.
    8. Why is faith irrational, according to Nigel Warburton? Do you agree? It isn't supported by facts but rather faith, no.

    9. What is "the subjective point of view"? Do we need to value objectivity as well? The experience of an individual, I think so.

    10. Why was Karl Marx angry? How did he think the whole of human history could be explained? DId he have a point? He was angry about the class separation and inequality, he said the whole of human history could be explained through class struggles and differences, kind of.

    11. What was Marx's "vision"? Is it an appealing one
    People would provide what they can for themselves and for others, no I think that will never work on a large scale.
    12. What did Marx call religion? Was he being unfair?
    The opium of the people, I'm not sure.

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